Deckbuilding - Before War

[the dictator]

Yes, the hardest part for water is to get some lethal creature control.

How about:
-5 Stone skin, +5 ice bolt, to actually kill some nasty creatures.

[RavingRabbid]

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This comes into countering entropy.

[RavingRabbid]

Well... We now have a full set. We can now just go and operate changes on the decks.

[the dictator]

Well... We now have a full set. We can now just go and operate changes on the decks.

Or even better: finish the vault

[Pineapple]

How does the entropy deck work? it has high damage creatures that can be antimatter'd or maxwell'd, and our only form of cc (toadfish) takes way too many turns to kill off our antimatter'd creatures or said maxwell. Plus, we only have 6 blitz-able creatures, so theres a low chance blitzes will actually help..

[Tiko]

So far this seems to be our best bet against both rush and stall:

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It can easily destroy a stall, though sanctuaries can quite lengthen the match, but the drakes are sturdy enough to last long enough, even with a lucky shield on their side. The problem is still a rush, as it has ~even number of wins and losses; all is depending on the starting hand and coin toss. If there's no freezing capabilities at start, you're dead. If you have stabilized the field, and miscount one single freezing sequence, you're dead. I'm thinking about replacing the bolts with freezing, just because they're cheaper (it means a *lot* at start), but a single bolt can kill outright a fresh golem. Maybe -1 drake, +1 bolt. Ice shields would be nice too, but it's costy. And it's awfully vulnerable to rage pots... Still, couldn't come up better than this. If someone has time, please test it more.

[Tiko]

Well, FxCK Fire...  I don't have the nerves for this...

by Tiko

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This is the best so far for stopping rushes (and keeping in mind stalls too), but the thing is: this matchup is soo far from balanced.. I'm trying to hold myself and not to rant, but this is ridiculous.. Average first turn 10+ dmg in the face, and you cannot do *a single thing* about it, just the hope that he has a bad draw, and he won't pull out another 2-3 creatures next turn. And more often than not the match is already over when you're starting to play your deck..

WTF?!?

[Tiko]

Posting it just as a reminder:

If we decide to go directly vs. immorush:

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(duh, flooding the page again..)

[the dictator]

To take against fire:

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Win rates
Fire rush (Ubah stompy): 3/6
Fire stall (with sanctuaries): 6/6

[RavingRabbid]

To take against fire:

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Win rates
Fire rush (Ubah stompy): 3/6
Fire stall (with sanctuaries): 6/6

What would this cause in vault?


-5 EAs
-5 BBs
-5 Tridents
-2 Purifies
-3 Ice Shield
+1 Ice Bolt
-9 Water Pends
+8 Water Pillar
+3 Freeze
+6 Ice Dragons

I say we use the new 11 free cards for:

+2 Purifies
+2 EAs
+2 Tridents
+2 Gravity Shields
+1 Toadfishes
+2 Ice Bolt