Deckbuilding - Before War

[RavingRabbid]

Tiko, this is the only time I'm stealing your job. But this topic needs existance ASAP.


My point:

We need to build a counter deck for every of the 11 teams. We'd better not count underworld, because our deck'd be spoiled/useless by then.


 

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More coming soon. Feel Free to post.

[Vinvick3714]

Alright, I know I'm not a deckbuilder, but I've been thinking about this deck since War 2 ended.

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A Nova-Grabby deck is very very helpful in War. Deflags, and EQ's are cheap PC and things that could help in the deck, they can be subbed for anything (like Fog shield for example). The Water Pendulums and Toadfishes get good damage out along with getting grabby's out faster. Freezes for CC, and more water cards. 50% water, as well. Any suggestions would be very welcome. It fails hard to excessive CC, but has enough damage to get through it(usually).

I've tried it against AI3's and it worked pretty awesomely. I don't know what teams this would work against though (Maybe Darkness or Life?)

[Bootsza]

I can't see anything in the spoilers in Rabbid's post.

[nilsieboy]

I can't see anything in the spoilers in Rabbid's post.

there aren't any decks yet (but if there are i can't see them neither xD)

[Bootsza]

That makes sense - thanks

I will post some counter deck ideas here for consideration.

[Tiko]

First thoughts mostly against Entropy/discord, but it can be made a basic stall too:

A spinoff of xdude's infamous water/light stall:

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Tests show promise so far..

[Pineapple]

As the epic noob of team water, I'd like to ask the questions with the obvious answers, such as:

How do we counter a deck if we don't know what deck they can use? All teams can use discord, deflags, dimensional shields, momentum, etc...

[Tiko]

And another; basic rush-like setup, based on vinvick's idea:

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Note: tweaking still may be needed, the deck works, but not as fluidly yet as I would like it to.



- We should teach the other teams not to underestimate the Trident. Also, looking up the draft decks may prove useful, there was excessive use of it back there:

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[RavingRabbid]

Ok. My first thoughts were about and .


's power stands in nova, antimatter, discord and pandemonium.

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Let's ignore all of them at once.

's power is generally in devtal, steal and vampirism. And a lot of off element versatility.

This was my deck

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It's not even legit, but it's a possible plan.



Then. Life.

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These decks are just examples, and might need work.

[RavingRabbid]

Light:

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This deck doesn't make a lot of sense. But it might still work.

[Pineapple]

Light:

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This deck doesn't make a lot of sense. But it might still work.

flooding (although costly) has synergy with wardens, and do you really need that much earth quanta?

[RavingRabbid]

Light:

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This deck doesn't make a lot of sense. But it might still work.

flooding (although costly) has synergy with wardens, and do you really need that much earth quanta?

I said that there's room for improvement.