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Re: Shard of Patience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31451.msg401964#msg401964
« Reply #72 on: October 01, 2011, 03:52:37 am »
Seems that unlike other 'frozen/delayed' effects (except Guard), this one does not override a 'delayed' effect with longer duration (e.g. Basilisk Blood).

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Re: Shard of Patience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31451.msg404708#msg404708
« Reply #73 on: October 05, 2011, 04:33:29 pm »
what if i fractal something > flood > this card > destroy flood

or

fractal something > flood > this card > chimera?

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Re: Shard of Patience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31451.msg404718#msg404718
« Reply #74 on: October 05, 2011, 04:58:14 pm »
what if i fractal something > flood > this card > destroy flood

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fractal something > flood > this card > chimera?

This is a spell, not a permanent, the game does not remember cast spells, so in fist scenario nothing happens to the buffed creatures, and in the second scenario, Chimera will absorb all the stats and keep them (see Sky Blitz + Chimera combo).

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Re: Shard of Patience | Shard of Patience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31451.msg420665#msg420665
« Reply #75 on: November 05, 2011, 12:27:15 am »
to make this card more vercitile i suggest it be made a permanent.
when it is in play your creatures don't attack but gain +1,+1 per turn (+2,+2 for water creatures).
ability of permanent: discard this card (cost 0)
the other hand this would mean that the cost would have to be increaced

this would give meaning to the name.





also is it your intent to give malignent cells a +4/+4 boost.

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Re: Shard of Patience | Shard of Patience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31451.msg420721#msg420721
« Reply #76 on: November 05, 2011, 04:00:57 am »
to make this card more vercitile i suggest it be made a permanent.
when it is in play your creatures don't attack but gain +1,+1 per turn (+2,+2 for water creatures).
ability of permanent: discard this card (cost 0)
the other hand this would mean that the cost would have to be increaced

this would give meaning to the name.

also is it your intent to give malignent cells a +4/+4 boost.
Malignant Cells only get +1|+0, regardless of their position -- SoP only gives :water creatures in the Flooding zone +4|+4. Try it for yourself in Trainer.
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Re: Shard of Patience | Shard of Patience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31451.msg420851#msg420851
« Reply #77 on: November 05, 2011, 10:46:48 am »
ATM I try to build an Arena Deck including Sop.

After some Testgames in Trainer I started wondering whats up with the AI, because it collected cards and cards and doesnt seem to play anything, so I took some Precogs to see the AIs Hand and....well.....

When does the AI actually play SoPs? He collect them keeping his hand about 6-7 cards and plays nearly nothing, although he had only 0-att creatures in play.

Finally I decided to not play any card against him, to see how long it takes to get him playing the damn SoP.

I have to say the AI is incredible stupid when you want it to use SoP. Thats what he has done:

I built an Aether/Death deck for fractaled Deathstalkers with SoP (fractal is my todays oracle card).
He kept all his SoPs (some turns he had 4 in his hand) and prefers to discard anything instead of playing a SoP as long as he got less than 6 creatures.
When he finally managed to play the 6th creature (fractal you know), he plays 1 (!!!) of the fractaled Stalkers, plays 1 (!!!) SoP....and than 4 more Stalkers....
It went something about 6 turns this way: Ai plays a creature, plays SoP, plays eventually some more creatures. When he finally attacked for the first time, I have had 12 cards left (33 card deck).

I guess the AI waits for the 6th creature because this is the first spot that could may be flooded....although there is not a single innundation in the Deck. Also the AI doesnt care about the creatures he has, while he has some SoPs in his hand.
I think now that the AI got improved to handle a bit better with/against SoSac there should be another improvement for using SoP. At least it should not discard something like Fractal, Deathstalkers, Bonewalls etc instead of playing a SoP for 3 Stalkers or other creatures.

Too bad, I liked the idea of an Arena-SoP deck  :-\

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Re: Shard of Patience | Shard of Patience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31451.msg434781#msg434781
« Reply #78 on: December 04, 2011, 02:49:39 pm »
There is a notcrappy deck that use this card?

I cant do anything what worths with this shard.

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Re: Shard of Patience | Shard of Patience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31451.msg434785#msg434785
« Reply #79 on: December 04, 2011, 03:01:39 pm »
This+dune scorps is a possibility, albeit rather slow. Still, it makes mono-time neurotoxin possible, at least.
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Re: Shard of Patience | Shard of Patience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31451.msg434829#msg434829
« Reply #80 on: December 04, 2011, 05:25:32 pm »
When do the Masters intend to move the shards to the Other section? It's been a very long time since they are in game.

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Re: Shard of Patience | Shard of Patience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31451.msg434857#msg434857
« Reply #81 on: December 04, 2011, 06:59:46 pm »
When do the Masters intend to move the shards to the Other section? It's been a very long time since they are in game.
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Re: Shard of Patience | Shard of Patience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31451.msg447320#msg447320
« Reply #82 on: January 09, 2012, 04:39:23 pm »
I may have missed this somewhere in the topic, but this card has been nerfed for a +1/+0 card.  That is sort of really bad. I understand that this card is "themed" water, but this card obv works in other decks Way better than water decks. the only deck I can see getting a viable boost from this card..Maybe poison dial?

I think it needs a buff.

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Re: Shard of Patience | Shard of Patience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31451.msg447413#msg447413
« Reply #83 on: January 09, 2012, 10:40:29 pm »
I may have missed this somewhere in the topic, but this card has been nerfed for a +1/+0 card.  That is sort of really bad. I understand that this card is "themed" water, but this card obv works in other decks Way better than water decks. the only deck I can see getting a viable boost from this card..Maybe poison dial?

I think it needs a buff.
that was done to prevent fractal sparks, I think

 

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