Post by: jmizzle7 on January 12, 2010, 09:58:36 pm
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Discuss.
Post by: Kamietsu on January 13, 2010, 12:49:19 am
Post by: Baily18 on January 17, 2010, 02:45:01 am
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Post by: Essence on January 22, 2010, 06:59:27 pm
Post by: Essence on April 09, 2010, 12:35:08 am
Post by: Asris on April 23, 2010, 03:33:00 am
Post by: Essence on April 23, 2010, 06:07:50 am
Post by: Brion on July 12, 2010, 08:27:31 pm
Edit: i use it pretty often too :P
Post by: Essence on February 05, 2011, 05:35:56 pm
Ice Bolt now has a chance to freeze the weapon of a player damaged by it, in addition to the chance it always had to freeze creatures.
The freeze is always 3 turns long (regardless of upped/unupped), and the %chance to freeze a weapon is the same as it is for creatures -- 30% + 5% per point of damage dealt. Because the effect targets a player and not a weapon, the freeze can affect immaterial/protected weapons.
Discuss.
Post by: Wonder on February 05, 2011, 05:38:11 pm
Idunno if I'll ever use it to freeze a weapon when I could just kill a creature though.
Post by: Essence on February 05, 2011, 05:51:52 pm
Post by: Wonder on February 05, 2011, 05:53:42 pm
Well, it means that Ice Bolt has a balanced purpose against creatureless decks, one of the biggest reasons to not pack it before.Yeah that's true. It was always inferior to Fire Bolt, damage-wise, as a form of CC.
I think it's a good change :D
Post by: funerallaughter on February 05, 2011, 06:07:20 pm
Post by: Essence on February 05, 2011, 06:33:29 pm
Post by: Hyroen on February 05, 2011, 06:48:11 pm
W-I-N-N-I-N-G.
They were meant for each other, and with this, my wish that Ice Bolt should have a chance to freeze the enemy's weapon has been granted.
Post by: funerallaughter on February 05, 2011, 07:00:55 pm
I'm not relying on this quite yet X3
Post by: Boingo on February 05, 2011, 07:11:19 pm
Post by: Wonder on February 05, 2011, 07:14:04 pm
Do protected/untargetable weapons become targetable when frozen? If so, do they remain targetable after thawing?I don't think you can target Immaterial Weapons.
Post by: Falcon4415 on February 05, 2011, 07:33:19 pm
Do protected/untargetable weapons become targetable when frozen? If so, do they remain targetable after thawing?To shatter a weapon you have to first freeze it with the bolt or with a voodoo combo, and then use Shockwave. However, what you are targetting all the time is the enemy elemental, not the weapon slot.
Post by: Essence on February 05, 2011, 07:38:33 pm
Post by: Boingo on February 05, 2011, 07:38:49 pm
Thanks. I just tried it out in trainer. If Essence formula is correct, and ice lance does minimum 2 damage, then you always have at least 40% chance to freeze weapon. A buff for reflective shields.Do protected/untargetable weapons become targetable when frozen? If so, do they remain targetable after thawing?To shatter a weapon you have to first freeze it with the bolt or with a voodoo combo, and then use Shockwave. However, what you are targetting all the time is the enemy elemental, not the weapon slot.
Post by: Falcon4415 on February 05, 2011, 08:56:36 pm
A buff for reflective shields.Which results in a nerf to all kinds of bolts and Shockwave. Conclusion: don't buff things because you may end up nerfing them in the process :P.
Post by: frlaa on February 06, 2011, 05:39:51 pm
Post by: willng3 on February 10, 2011, 01:46:33 pm
Post by: funerallaughter on February 10, 2011, 03:22:00 pm
Post by: willng3 on February 10, 2011, 03:51:00 pm
can voodoo's freeze PA'ed weapons?Yes, it was the only way I was able to destroy PA'd weapons with Shockwave when I was testing earlier (only slightly off topic :P).
Post by: silux on February 18, 2011, 10:37:17 pm
It's like killing a burrowed devourer with eclipse and thorn carapace ::)
Post by: Vineroz on February 19, 2011, 01:55:01 pm
Post by: silux on February 22, 2011, 06:15:31 pm
could this be a viable counter for Obliterator?no :(
Post by: chum3 on March 02, 2011, 08:06:22 pm
I actually have my doubts about this being able to freeze Immaterial weapons. I just tested this multiple times in trainer, with 140+ :water gathered at the end (when the freeze chance should be 100%) and I could not freeze the opponent's Morning Glory. I later tested the same against PA'd Pulvies. Again, I could not freeze them. Next I tried against unprotected Pulvies. This worked as intended. Conclusion: Ice Bolt can not freeze Immaterial/protected weapons.Just posting to say I agree with this; I couldn't get Ice Lance to freeze an immaterial weapon either.
Post by: BC on March 02, 2011, 08:59:00 pm
Post by: bogtro on August 28, 2011, 11:51:45 pm
Post by: BluexLightning on October 08, 2011, 05:04:28 pm
Post by: Pineapple on November 10, 2011, 11:26:39 am
Hmmm not really worth that much to go upped with this... save yourself 1.5k..
Right, thanks for keeping me honest, Xenocidius.
Edit: Along with multiple upgrades adding up, it's much easier to draw 1 out of X towers to play the Ice Lance in your hand than to draw 2 out of X towers to play the Ice Bolt in your hand.
Post by: Xenocidius on November 10, 2011, 12:28:17 pm
Most upgrades only give a 1-quanta advantage. That advantage really adds up over multiple upgrades though.
Post by: RavingRabbid on March 04, 2012, 09:41:51 am