Water Damage Dealing Deck

[estava]

Hi! For as long as I've been playing Elements, Water has been my chosen element and mark. The Water cards got upgraded first and since I had a lot of trouble to go through upgrading them, I never really switched deck types. This week I completed the deck and I beat the Neptune Fake God and some Level 5 with it. To beat a Fake God I tried over 15 times. I got close on a couple of occasions. If you want a Fake God killer, try something else really. :-)

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by estava

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With this deck I hardly ever lose to Level 3s. I beat quite a few people pvp-wise with some sweating every now and then.

The idea is to use Ice Lances to kill or freeze the enemies' creatures. Wait to play Permafrost unless it looks like it's needed and it won't be stolen or destroyed or it is your only chance.

In general I like winning the fights in at most 10 turns. If it gets to 20 turns it's because it's a trickier battle. If you are fighting level 3s, it's a good idea to finish the battle in as few turns as possible right? Likewise top 50.

Even now with this fully upgraded deck, fighting level 3s with Time element and the reverse card can be tricky. I just had some fun a few hours back grinding level 3s for some score points (made over 1000 score points in a few hours), and I found out that using Ice Lances to kill the Fate Eggs and waiting up to make use of creatures paid off in that it helped me with drawing more Towers to build a quanta cushion before it got to the Lightning and Reverse Card and Parallel Universe craziness. So, waiting till I had like over 50 or 60 quanta was not hard. If I could, I would use Permafrost to hold off the 1 damage hitters while taking the Fate Eggs out ASAP.

The major weakness of this deck is being unable to get past shields or healing with shields. At most, Permafrost can help with waiting until shields can be dealt with if it's a matter of time.

Compared to other rusher decks, I would have to say that Ice Lances and Permafrost make it more interesting to play this deck.

I paid for almost all of the upgrades by beating Level 3s when their spins gave more rares back. So I sold the rares I would never use as I never fancied playing rainbow decks. So I know getting an un-upgraded deck to this stage can be tough.

I originally posted this to the Kongregate forum at: http://www.kongregate.com/forums/22-elements/topics/91484-water-deck-redux

[jmdt]

One of the best decks I ever played against.  Very tough to defeat.  Its a shame Estava doesn't play anymore, he could give Essence a run for his money.

[Ookami]

Nice deck, but is it really the best to farm AI3's?  If you already have the electrum to go out and upgrade all of those cards, wouldn't it be better to pvp or modify the deck to do so?

[jmdt]

Nice deck, but is it really the best to farm AI3's?  If you already have the electrum to go out and upgrade all of those cards, wouldn't it be better to pvp or modify the deck to do so?

I farms AI3 very well, but it is a very solid PvP deck.

[guolin]

Does it work unupped, lol?

[Retribution]

Does it work unupped, lol?

Highly doubtful, crawlers have 3 less attack and HP and dragon has 4 less attack.

Permafrost shield + SoG = Wonders, perhaps you should add some. Could stall for ice lances as well.

[twinsbuster]

3 Permafrost shield
3 Congeal
6 SoG
6 Ice Lance

can this ice lance stall deck work?

[Retribution]

3 Permafrost shield
3 Congeal
6 SoG
6 Ice Lance

can this ice lance stall deck work?

Drain Life/Fire Bolt works better though.

[johannhowitzer]

Except neither of those can freeze enemy creatures and reduce incoming damage by 2.

Permafrost Shield just rocks.  Very hard.

[jmdt]

Does it work unupped, lol?

Highly doubtful, crawlers have 3 less attack and HP and dragon has 4 less attack.

Permafrost shield + SoG = Wonders, perhaps you should add some. Could stall for ice lances as well.

SoG and permafrost can make a good water stall, but this deck is more of a control oriented rush deck from my experience with it.   Its got high hp, strong critters to deal damage and resist CC, and since its not as fast as other rushes, it has ice lances and permshield to help it get the field advantage back.  Estava would always use 1-3 ice lance early to wack a pesky creature and save the rest to the end as final direct damage.

I used to use PvP versus Estava and this deck to test my new ideas because it is a very solid, stable, and well rounded deck and very tough to defeat.  Not the type of deck I like, but none the less quite effective.

[johannhowitzer]

I'd be confident going up against life or shrieker rushes with this, even life decks with adrenaline.  jmdt is right, this isn't a stall deck, it's a rush that goes for a tempo advantage over other, more pure, rushes.  Less useful against stall decks, standard rainbows, and permanent control does pose a problem, though not a fatal one.

Very strong deck for its purpose.  Essence would be proud, estava, to see someone so new to the forum thinking so strategically.  Shards of Gratitude could help but I'd leave them out; I would add at least one more permafrost shield just for draw reliability.  Maybe even two.

[nilsieboy]

maybe some puffer fishes?