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Re: What will be different in War #3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16121.msg208959#msg208959
« Reply #36 on: November 25, 2010, 04:32:56 am »
What if during the next War, there was a select team of "Mercenaries"?

They would have their own vault, and use decks from their vault.
They don't participate actively in the war, but instead are hired by teams in exchange for the right to salvage if they win and a card penalty to the team hiring them. It could be similar to Underworld, in that only people who were not bidded on can join this team.

Wouldn't that be cool?

It would mean that instead of playing suicide decks, you could sacrifice a small amount of cards from your vault to hire a mercenary to fight for you.
It would also let people who did not receive bids have a chance to participate in the war without actively competing.

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Re: What will be different in War #3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16121.msg209229#msg209229
« Reply #37 on: November 25, 2010, 02:50:47 pm »
Alright, here's my old idea for determining opponents.  Break the thing down into Tier systems of four teams each, based off of vault size from smallest to greatest.  If we include Underworld Tier 2 would contain 5 teams.  The main point of this is to determine who plays who.  Here's a table to show the percentage of chance a Tier team would have playing another.  If this is a bit bulky to produce I could probably write a small program to determine who plays who with the probability properly adjusted.  Once teams start being eliminated, the Tiers equally shrink, but if there is an odd number Tier 2 and then Tier 3 get the extra teams in that order.  Once the number of remaining teams is four or less simply discard the Tier system.  Hopefully this will prevent things such as in this war with Team Life facing Team Entropy 3 times a round when one team has a clear advantage.

The table reads across, so Tier 2 has a 25% chance of playing Tier 3.

Tier 1Tier 2Tier 3
Tier 160%25%15%
Tier 225%50%25%
Tier 315%25%60%

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Re: What will be different in War #3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16121.msg209278#msg209278
« Reply #38 on: November 25, 2010, 04:28:50 pm »
I wouldnt like dividing teams into Tiers; I dont see it as a fair solution at all. Instead, I'd rather have semi-randomizer that spreads opponents better. We had a round with 3 :entropy fights, round with 3 :time fights and round with 3 :earth fights. Some more variety would be nice.

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Re: What will be different in War #3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16121.msg209287#msg209287
« Reply #39 on: November 25, 2010, 04:50:37 pm »
But thats what my Tier system is.  It would reduce the chance of that exact thing happening, while promoting a few teams over others.  Its primarily to diversify the matchups while keeping the strongest and weakest teams from fighting each other as much, giving one an easy choice and the other a tough matchup.  I think it could lengthen the war by two or so rounds for certain teams.

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Re: What will be different in War #3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16121.msg209447#msg209447
« Reply #40 on: November 25, 2010, 10:38:54 pm »
I wouldnt like dividing teams into Tiers; I dont see it as a fair solution at all. Instead, I'd rather have semi-randomizer that spreads opponents better. We had a round with 3 :entropy fights, round with 3 :time fights and round with 3 :earth fights. Some more variety would be nice.
In a random distribution, those kinds of rounds will happen sometimes. If they never happened, you'd actually be making the matchups less random.

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Re: What will be different in War #3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16121.msg209489#msg209489
« Reply #41 on: November 26, 2010, 12:14:18 am »
QT, you really need to start actually reading my posts  ;D

I wouldnt like dividing teams into Tiers; I dont see it as a fair solution at all. Instead, I'd rather have semi-randomizer that spreads opponents better. We had a round with 3 :entropy fights, round with 3 :time fights and round with 3 :earth fights. Some more variety would be nice.
In a random distribution, those kinds of rounds will happen sometimes. If they never happened, you'd actually be making the matchups less random.

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Re: What will be different in War #3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16121.msg209883#msg209883
« Reply #42 on: November 26, 2010, 02:59:48 pm »
Removed and replaced (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13708.msg224268#msg224268):

Ok, we are getting a lot of suggestions here. Please post all suggestions in War - Suggestions & Feedback (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13708.0.html) topic.

Use this topic for talking about these new changes that will happen.
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Re: What will be different in War #3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16121.msg210036#msg210036
« Reply #43 on: November 26, 2010, 05:28:01 pm »
Ok, we are getting a lot of suggestions here. Please post all suggestions in War - Suggestions & Feedback (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13708.0.html) topic.

Use this topic for talking about these new changes that will happen.

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Re: What will be different in War #3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16121.msg210476#msg210476
« Reply #44 on: November 27, 2010, 03:05:26 am »
Ok, we are getting a lot of suggestions here. Please post all suggestions in War - Suggestions & Feedback (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13708.0.html) topic.

Use this topic for talking about these new changes that will happen.
Doesn't that make you the only person who can really post here because you're the only one who knows what will change? It's fine if that's the case, but I'm just wondering.

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Re: What will be different in War #3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16121.msg210479#msg210479
« Reply #45 on: November 27, 2010, 03:09:47 am »
Ok, we are getting a lot of suggestions here. Please post all suggestions in War - Suggestions & Feedback (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13708.0.html) topic.

Use this topic for talking about these new changes that will happen.
Doesn't that make you the only person who can really post here because you're the only one who knows what will change? It's fine if that's the case, but I'm just wondering.
That's the idea. It's more about announcements rather than suggestions, which belong in the other thread.

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Re: What will be different in War #3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16121.msg210568#msg210568
« Reply #46 on: November 27, 2010, 05:50:37 am »
Ok, we are getting a lot of suggestions here. Please post all suggestions in War - Suggestions & Feedback (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13708.0.html) topic.

Use this topic for talking about these new changes that will happen.
Doesn't that make you the only person who can really post here because you're the only one who knows what will change? It's fine if that's the case, but I'm just wondering.
Like Daxx already said, this topic is about announcing things that will happen in War #3. The suggestion topic is for posting tons of ideas that might happen, from which we maybe pick the best ones and include in this topic.

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Re: What will be different in War #3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16121.msg210777#msg210777
« Reply #47 on: November 27, 2010, 01:55:15 pm »
Suggestions are getting lost in discussion over illegals and forfeits.  I don't suppose a War #3 suggestion thread would better be put here, allowing that discussion to remain there?

 

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