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Re: War #10 - Voices of the Fallen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63362.msg1252508#msg1252508
« Reply #60 on: November 30, 2016, 05:18:50 pm »
What can i say?

YEAHHHHHHHHHH!!!! 3RD!!!  :water :water :water

I´m so glad we managed to come this far, after so many atempts with this glorious element!  :water
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Re: War #10 - Voices of the Fallen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63362.msg1252509#msg1252509
« Reply #61 on: November 30, 2016, 05:20:31 pm »
What can i say?

YEAHHHHHHHHHH!!!! 3RD!!!  :water :water :water

I´m so glad we managed to come this far, after so many atempts with this glorious element!  :water
Thx JCJ for a great war and leadership!

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See you next war? 8-)
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Re: War #10 - Voices of the Fallen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63362.msg1252527#msg1252527
« Reply #62 on: December 01, 2016, 12:34:02 am »
What can i say?

YEAHHHHHHHHHH!!!! 3RD!!!  :water :water :water



Congratulations, water!
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Re: War #10 - Voices of the Fallen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63362.msg1252536#msg1252536
« Reply #63 on: December 01, 2016, 06:39:44 am »
I'm impressed.

There were many strong teams this war lead by strong players, players who I've lost to, or very nearly lost to, on many occasions. I thought that the minor differences in strength between the players would be negated by the drastic differences in strength between the Elements. I thought that the best Elements would effortlessly lock down their spots at the top. Everyone did.

And yet, in an era where the most formidable Elements are piloted by generals who know nearly all there is to know about the game, a bottom-three Element has taken a top-three position in the standings.

Congratulations, Water. You've accomplished something special.
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Re: War #10 - Voices of the Fallen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63362.msg1252538#msg1252538
« Reply #64 on: December 01, 2016, 09:21:37 am »
What a lovely thing to read, thanks root :)
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Re: War #10 - Voices of the Fallen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63362.msg1253294#msg1253294
« Reply #65 on: December 12, 2016, 11:51:46 pm »
Well, while we got brutalized in the end, this was a really good run overall. A decent amount of small things and some big things held us back a little, had some circumstances been different we might even have won. Second place is a pretty good start for me though  ;).
Congrats  :air on winning!

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Hey Fatsos we got your favourite thing: Disappointment!

Our main issue was activity of course, basically we were a 3man team that only worked on Friday-evening-shifts. If we were lucky we had the intel (that was my job and with few exceptions I put that up quite early each round), maybe up to 2 deck ideas and thoughts on up to 2 opponents 6 hours before deadline. So in those 6 hours we had to do everything else, which resulted in some questionable transmutes, disc/salv and occasionaly we even failed at the decks themselves. And of course, we could probably have thought of better decks had we invested more time and our testing was minimal. The latter might have been part of the reason why DBH did as terribly as it did, I remember us thinking "DBH should beat it" for several decks (that we mindgated perfectly, which however beat DBH anyways) without ever actually testing it. I wonder how close to 50% those matchups really were (and against bw fire deck ragepot rather than firebolt was a problem too), I will ofc still insist that most of that was bad rng  :P.

Our mindgating was crazy good, it feels like each round with few exceptions we guessed 3 decks correctly, countered a 4th anyways and then lost the other (and some of the mindgates we lost too ->blame rng).

Our vault wasnt perfect, it was overloaded with weapons and shields all the time and we had 2 completely unused decktypes in our original vault (neuroscorps and rage eaters) that should have been actual discardfodder instead.


The team:

My role: I largely did the intel and was usually the first one to make guesses as to what our opponents would field. I even attempted to simulate the other participants vault based on the public information, but only got done with making the tool work halfway through war, at which point we just didn't have the time to make the necessary guesswork in retrospect. Quite often I also made suggestions what decks to pick if my guess is on point and half of the time one of those was picked in the end and I took part in the discussion whether it would work or not. Occasionaly I build decks myself too.

worldwideweb: Thanks for picking me! You did an awesome job! I think you finalized most of our decks and were the most active in discussions (giving most of the valuable input too). Occasionally you just knew intuitively which deck to use and even if I disagreed you didnt let me convince you otherwise and turned out to be right! You are the main reason for  Team :gravity 's best performance yet! At some points you felt more like a teammate than a leader, which may or may not be a good thing.

Odii: Working with you was really nice! It was clear that you are a true war veteran, knowing more about war matters than most. Discussion with you was nice and at each point of it I felt like we were making progress (unless it was clearly just smalltalk which is nice too). Also you occasional came up with awesome hardcounters to some opponents that worked out perfectly :)

I had fun with both of you :)

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majofa: Being the only one in a different timezone, as well as some early issues put you off a lot I guess, still I was expecting a bit more given your war history. You'd usually appear for about half an hour each deckbuilding phase right before deadline. I'm sorry, but I don't recall you giving any input that affected our decisions or that we should regret not having taken to heart. You didnt use the possibility of asynchronus communication of Tpad much either and often we had no idea about your whereabouts.

Naesala: Welp, nothing wrong here, she said she wouldnt be online right off the bat and so it was ;D. I suppose www3 wanted to include his Hotyugh, complete card collection makes things easy and he didn't want to kick her either. Congrats Nae on being part of the best Team  :gravity yet :P!

Spoiler for Air op! Nerf plox!:
So many cards giving us a headache in combination. The most annoying ones were SW, Wings, OE and damsels, steals and vagger were really bad for us too.
The only counters we had to wings were chargers (get outrushed on their own, rt splash not good enough vs Vagger+damsel), SoFo (get rekt by SW and often OE), catatitandials and pulvy (loses to PC unless against a stall) and poison (BW weak to damsels). The last rounds went as follows:
1.Gather our scraps in vault
2. Built the best counter to darkdom, CCUGnymphs and grabbow we can
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3. Lose to darkdom, CCUGnymphs and grabbow

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Re: War #10 - Voices of the Fallen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63362.msg1253372#msg1253372
« Reply #66 on: December 14, 2016, 08:58:34 am »
Gratz Team :gravity! :D
And congratulations to :air for coming first at last! :P
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Re: War #10 - Voices of the Fallen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63362.msg1253437#msg1253437
« Reply #67 on: December 15, 2016, 08:07:00 am »
I'm impressed.

There were many strong teams this war lead by strong players, players who I've lost to, or very nearly lost to, on many occasions. I thought that the minor differences in strength between the players would be negated by the drastic differences in strength between the Elements. I thought that the best Elements would effortlessly lock down their spots at the top. Everyone did.

And yet, in an era where the most formidable Elements are piloted by generals who know nearly all there is to know about the game, a bottom-three Element has taken a top-three position in the standings.

Congratulations, Water. You've accomplished something special.

To me they did. Air and gravy came out on top as i expected. With aether going down faster and water holding out longer just tells me, this was the war of shards.

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Re: War #10 - Voices of the Fallen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63362.msg1253486#msg1253486
« Reply #68 on: December 15, 2016, 08:50:43 pm »
Gz Air. Deserved win. Thanks to the warmasters, who made a great job. Sorry if I was too rude in some situations but it was just because I felt to be treated unfairly. I didn't agree on two Event Cards, but discussions are part of this event I guess.

Kaempfer and www3 were great team mates. Rookie of this war is Kaempfer (at least for me). He acted like an old war veteran. Actually even better. www3 was a great general and war player as expected. It was really fun with you guys. I really enjoyed our teamwork. Sorry that I wasn't able to do the last round.

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