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Re: War - Standings https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14171.msg195091#msg195091
« Reply #84 on: November 06, 2010, 05:29:57 pm »
Death's W/L totals are off.
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Re: War - Standings https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14171.msg195096#msg195096
« Reply #85 on: November 06, 2010, 05:35:25 pm »
Death's W/L totals are off.
Thanks for the catch. Fixed :)
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Re: War - Standings https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14171.msg195313#msg195313
« Reply #86 on: November 06, 2010, 10:36:26 pm »
I believe Life's record this round (round 2) is 4-5, not 3-6.

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Re: War - Standings https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14171.msg195693#msg195693
« Reply #87 on: November 07, 2010, 10:38:04 am »
I see that four teams got penalties this round.  I am interested why did they get penalized , so I was wondering is there a topic where we can read what rules did they break or something like that ?
 

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Re: War - Standings https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14171.msg195695#msg195695
« Reply #88 on: November 07, 2010, 10:40:24 am »
I see that four teams got penalties this round.  I am interested why did they get penalized , so I was wondering is there a topic where we can read what rules did they break or something like that ?
My best guess is that the penalties are actually 'replacement' penalties. Because they're so small and worth in increments of -6 (the amount of cards you win from a duel), it means that the replacement cannot salvage cards on a win, UNLESS the replacement match was done by a substitute team role/member (where the sub can salvage only 3 cards instead of 6). ^^;

That said, maybe someone would be so kind as to post the penalties on another small thread on this forum perhaps? ^^;

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Re: War - Standings https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14171.msg195698#msg195698
« Reply #89 on: November 07, 2010, 10:52:30 am »
I see that four teams got penalties this round.  I am interested why did they get penalized , so I was wondering is there a topic where we can read what rules did they break or something like that ?
Well for team Death we did not get a penalty. The number is weird but it's a bonus. In round 1 a loss was reversed into a win (due to an illegal deck). Since we already started round 2 this ended up taking effect after round 2 was finished and to fix it i guess we ended up with the bonus for round 2.

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Re: War - Standings https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14171.msg195704#msg195704
« Reply #90 on: November 07, 2010, 11:11:17 am »
That -6 is the subbing penalty, I believe.

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Re: War - Standings https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14171.msg195723#msg195723
« Reply #91 on: November 07, 2010, 12:15:50 pm »
napalm and i helped ddevans in chat on the current standings
regarding the modifier...

 :death Death (-6)
(Death) MrBlonde subs for MM 2 - 0 Suxerz (Light)

 :life Life (-6)
killsdazombies (sub for nadrin) 2 (life) Dragoon 1 (time)

 :time Time (-9)
(TIME)Senabmi 2 (sub smokefree) vs (AETHER)Artagas 0
brion, subbed by Dragoon (Time) 2 - 0 icecoldbro, subbed by gocubbies# (Aether)

 :water Water (-12)
RavingRabbid (Water - in for unit748596) 2 - Gyrodiot (air) 0
( Water - sub for Bluesky) Thedictator 2 - (Life) Willng3 1


each winning by a replacement (not the Substitute) = -6
each winning by a Substitute = -3

Time won 1 game by the official Sub and 1 game by another replacement hence -9
2 out of 3 Water winnings was by a non-Sub replacement so they only get to salvage 6 (instead of 18)

'War - Standings' spreadsheet will automatically calculate each winning as +6 hence why a modifier is used
penalties from Round 1 was not added to the calculation for the current standings

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Re: War - Standings https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14171.msg195761#msg195761
« Reply #92 on: November 07, 2010, 01:32:44 pm »
Nice, that exactly is what I was looking for.

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Re: War - Standings https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14171.msg195796#msg195796
« Reply #93 on: November 07, 2010, 02:35:03 pm »
According to my calculations, Time should now have a vault of 399 cards.

We finished last round with 456 cards.
Two normal wins (+6*2), one substitute sub (+3) and one non-substitute sub (+0) gives +15 total.
5 losses results in -60 cards.
The battle between edunavas and Xuru in the first round has been announced a loss, so instead of 6 salvaged cards we have to discard 6 cards (a total change of -12 cards).

456+12+3+0-60-12=399


Or, if we try to calculate everything from the beginning, counting edunavas vs. Xuru as a loss:
Auction costs:
500 - 68 = 432

Round 1:
2 times normal 2-0 win, 1 time substitute 2-0 win, 1 normal 2-1 win:
432 + 2*9 + 6 + 6 = 462
5 losses (including edunavas vs. Xuru)
462 - 5*6 = 432
24 card propaganda bonus and 12 card penalty for Immolation and edunavas using illegal decks
432 + 24 - 12 = 444

Round 2
2 normal wins, 1 substitute sub win, 1 non-substitute win:
444 + 2*6 + 3 = 459
5 losses:
459 - 5*12 = 399



So, both ways I get the same result. It would seem the round 1 modifier should be 18 instead of 21 for the Standings Google Doc to show the correct numbers. (18 = 24 bonus + 9 for three 2-0 wins -3 for one substitute win -12 penalties)
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Re: War - Standings https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14171.msg200458#msg200458
« Reply #94 on: November 13, 2010, 07:34:24 pm »
nice, :fire is now 2nd by 9 cards.

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Re: War - Standings https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14171.msg200479#msg200479
« Reply #95 on: November 13, 2010, 07:55:21 pm »
Not nice: :water has already less cards then team underworld :(

And :entropy has more then twice as many cards as :water has.
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