War - Standings

[TimerClock14]

yes i know, earth won its battles 6-3, four of those 6 wins were 2-0 so that gives us 36 there we lost 3 battles so that's -18 giving us 18. factor in the two 2-1 wins (+12) and you have 30 cards, +12 for propaganda bonus =42

[home_wreckaz]

yes i know, earth won its battles 6-3, four of those 6 wins were 2-0 so that gives us 36 there we lost 3 battles so that's -18 giving us 18. factor in the two 2-1 wins (+12) and you have 30 cards, +12 for propaganda bonus =42

Checking starting vault and current card count, you're up 42 cards. Modifier only includes things like card event bonuses/penalty and the propaganda bonuses so four 2-0 wins means you're up 12 and propaganda bonuses up another 12 to make +24.

[TimerClock14]

ohhhhhh now i get it.

[Dragoon]

Not sure how we got +33 for Time.  2 Flawless victories (+18), 2 normal victories (+12), 1 subbed game by substitute (+6), 4 losses (-24), 1st in propaganda (+24), and penalties?

18+12+6-24+24=36

Unless -3 was for Immolations' penalty.

[Belthazar666]

Not sure how we got +33 for Time.  2 Flawless victories (+18), 2 normal victories (+12), 1 subbed game by substitute (+6), 4 losses (-24), 1st in propaganda (+24), and penalties?

18+12+6-24+24=36

Unless -3 was for Immolations' penalty.

Sub can only salvage 3 cards, not 6.

[Memorystick]

Not sure how we got +33 for Time.  2 Flawless victories (+18), 2 normal victories (+12), 1 subbed game by substitute (+6), 4 losses (-24), 1st in propaganda (+24), and penalties?

18+12+6-24+24=36

Unless -3 was for Immolations' penalty.

Sub can only salvage 3 cards, not 6.

Sub salvages 3 +3 for 2-0 victory (event card), resulting in +6

[Belthazar666]

Ah, you're right, 2-0 victories do do that in round 1

[Memorystick]

Assuming no penalties, the total cards between all the vaults (underworld removed until R5) would be as follows:
   2    |    3    |    4    |    5    |    6    |     7   |   8   |  9    |  10  |  11  |  12  |  13  | 14 | 15
5476 | 5152 | 4504 | 3772 | 2380 | 1444 | 868 | 532 | 340 | 220 | 148 | 100 | 76 | 52

Thus, the 14th round would be the absolute limit for the event, unless 8 more cards were somehow picked up. (Feel free to correct me if I made a mistake)

[QuantumT]

Assuming no penalties, the total cards between all the vaults (underworld removed until R5) would be as follows:
   2    |    3    |    4    |    5    |    6    |     7   |   8   |  9    |  10  |  11  |  12  |  13  | 14 | 15
5476 | 5152 | 4504 | 3772 | 2380 | 1444 | 868 | 532 | 340 | 220 | 148 | 100 | 76 | 52

Thus, the 14th round would be the absolute limit for the event, unless 8 more cards were somehow picked up. (Feel free to correct me if I made a mistake)

I think this assumes that the cards are evenly distributed.

For example. Let's say that at round 9 only 2 teams remain, Team 1 with 300 cards and Team 2 with 40. If team 2 can repeatedly win, it has the potential to continue for 8 rounds or so.

It should still be fairly close though.

[Memorystick]

Assuming no penalties, the total cards between all the vaults (underworld removed until R5) would be as follows:
   2    |    3    |    4    |    5    |    6    |     7   |   8   |  9    |  10  |  11  |  12  |  13  | 14 | 15
5476 | 5152 | 4504 | 3772 | 2380 | 1444 | 868 | 532 | 340 | 220 | 148 | 100 | 76 | 52

Thus, the 14th round would be the absolute limit for the event, unless 8 more cards were somehow picked up. (Feel free to correct me if I made a mistake)

I think this assumes that the cards are evenly distributed.

For example. Let's say that at round 9 only 2 teams remain, Team 1 with 300 cards and Team 2 with 40. If team 2 can repeatedly win, it has the potential to continue for 8 rounds or so.

It should still be fairly close though.

Yes, that's true. I didn't think of that (although several rounds did have odd numbers- including, IIRC, the 6th round)

Also- I need to fix that table >.<

[kev]

Not sure how we got +33 for Time.  2 Flawless victories (+18), 2 normal victories (+12), 1 subbed game by substitute (+6), 4 losses (-24), 1st in propaganda (+24), and penalties?

18+12+6-24+24=36

Unless -3 was for Immolations' penalty.

I'm very surprised SG/WMs haven't given an explanation for this.  It'd really be helpful to have a public list of all penalties as they occur.  Not only would it help the WMs keep track, it's currently impossible for anybody to track a team's vault without this information being public.

For instance, I was under the impression Time suffered a penalty for the above infraction, both Darkness and Aether suffered penalties for not having Member Roles threads as was requested in the private War Generals forum, and Air suffered a penalty for replacing Tomatoman.  I'm probably forgetting or unaware of some.  Have these penalties been enforced?

If the above was a penalty due to Immolation's post, I'd like to know whether all rookie penalties during the War will be halved.

[Xinef]

I PM'd ddevans96 about Time's penalties 2 days ago.
We are probably going to get a 12 card penalty for Immolation and for Edunavas (he played with 2 deflagrations instead of 2 rage potions).

As for 33 that is visible right now, it's probably 24 + 3*3 (propaganda bonus + event bonus)
If the penalty is indeed 12 cards, It should be 24 + 3*3 - 3 (substitute subbing) -12 (penalties) = 18