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Re: War - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13006.msg165645#msg165645
« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2010, 02:08:22 pm »
Just a stupid question: I upgraded all my rare cards and nymphs, so that means I cannot use them during war unless I get another non-upgraded version of them, right?
Correct. I upgraded one of my nymphs so it's useless in the war.
OK thx.
Bad for me, since I sold or upgraded all unupgraded rares... Now I know what I have to do till the next war starts ^^

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Re: War - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13006.msg165657#msg165657
« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2010, 02:33:03 pm »
Generals win 5 players that they bid the most, AND they were the highest bidder.

For example lets say I had made the following bids:

Player A - 9 cards (highest bidder)
Player B - 8 cards (3rd highest bidder)
Player C - 8 cards (highest bidder)
Player D - 7 cards (highest bidder)
Player E - 5 cards (highest bidder)
Player F - 4 cards (2nd highest bidder)
Player G - 3 cards (highest bidder)
Player H - 2 cards (highest bidder)
Player I - 2 cards (highest bidder)

I would win players A, C, D, E, and G. I wouldn't win players B or F because I wasn't the highest bidder, and I wouldn't win players H or I because they were the lowest of my bids.
One question to the above rule. Does general A win a player if general B bids more, but that player ends 6th or later on general B's list of players he was the highest bidder?

Eg. there are 10 slaves. I bid 2 cards on each one. General B bids 3 on each one. Does that mean that he wins 5 of them and I win none, or I win the other 5?

Also, what happens if there is a tie like that, ie. there are a number of people you bid the same amount of cards on and are the highest bidder, so that 5 people you bid the most on cannot be chosen unambiguously?
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Re: War - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13006.msg165660#msg165660
« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2010, 02:37:58 pm »
One question to the above rule. Does general A win a player if general B bids more, but that player ends 6th or later on general B's list of players he was the highest bidder?

Eg. there are 10 slaves. I bid 2 cards on each one. General B bids 3 on each one. Does that mean that he wins 5 of them and I win none, or I win the other 5?

Also, what happens if there is a tie like that, ie. there are a number of people you bid the same amount of cards on and are the highest bidder, so that 5 people you bid the most on cannot be chosen unambiguously?
*gasps* - Xinef, you're back! :D

(To answer the questions above - I'm guessing that General B wins 5 of his choice, while General A (not bidding enough on any of them), loses ALL of the auctions, meaning that he'll have to buyout 5 players at a 24 card price tag. Ties are settled by choice (the general chooses which players that are 'tied' to go on his team), I'm guessing...)


P.S. - ...are you the Time general, or...? O.o

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Re: War - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13006.msg165662#msg165662
« Reply #15 on: September 27, 2010, 02:40:27 pm »
Eg. there are 10 slaves. I bid 2 cards on each one. General B bids 3 on each one. Does that mean that he wins 5 of them and I win none, or I win the other 5?
I asked that question elsewhere.  You win the other 5.

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Also, what happens if there is a tie like that, ie. there are a number of people you bid the same amount of cards on and are the highest bidder, so that 5 people you bid the most on cannot be chosen unambiguously?
I asked that question elsewhere.  Your first bid is accepted first.

Someone set me straight if I'm wrong, cuz my answer differs from Kuro's.

SG: can a general outbid himself?

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Re: War - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13006.msg165676#msg165676
« Reply #16 on: September 27, 2010, 02:54:26 pm »
Thanks kevkev60614, that sounds reasonable.



P.S. - ...are you the Time general, or...? O.o
At first I was thinking of making you a General and being a Lieutenant myself, but it seems according to rules we'll have to do this the other way. Doesn't matter much though.

Now I'll have to think how much to bid on you and other players, so that a team of true Time Warriors is constructed once again and we still have a timely vault ;]
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Re: War - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13006.msg165702#msg165702
« Reply #17 on: September 27, 2010, 03:48:08 pm »
At first I was thinking of making you a General and being a Lieutenant myself, but it seems according to rules we'll have to do this the other way. Doesn't matter much though.

Now I'll have to think how much to bid on you and other players, so that a team of true Time Warriors is constructed once again and we still have a timely vault ;]
Ah, I see... (perhaps I should sign up then as a Loyalist or Mercenary then? Or maybe not? :P)

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Re: War - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13006.msg165754#msg165754
« Reply #18 on: September 27, 2010, 05:29:20 pm »
As long as there are no Time Lords involved...

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Re: War - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13006.msg165789#msg165789
« Reply #19 on: September 27, 2010, 06:33:33 pm »
As long as there are no Time Lords involved...
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Re: War - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13006.msg166330#msg166330
« Reply #20 on: September 28, 2010, 08:19:44 am »
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Each General can only bid on a maximum of different 18 players.
You mean, each General can be the top bidder on maximum 28 players, right? I mean, if we get outbidded 18 times, then we gotta pay more than we normally would for those players, which is.... not good. Especially considering that other Master could just outbid us forever so we get out of cards -.-.
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Re: War - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13006.msg166335#msg166335
« Reply #21 on: September 28, 2010, 08:27:40 am »
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Each General can only bid on a maximum of different 18 players.
You mean, each General can be the top bidder on maximum 28 players, right? I mean, if we get outbidded 18 times, then we gotta pay more than we normally would for those players, which is.... not good. Especially considering that other Master could just outbid us forever so we get out of cards -.-.
18.

No General can outbid you forever. Each General gets the top-6 bids he/she made, after which all the other 12 bids disappear. So if you were at 2nd place, you go to 1st place.

If you pick 18 players, and lose ALL those bids, then yes, you will have zero players, and are forced to buy players for 24 cards each, AFTER the auction has closed.

My tip is: try to pick players that you think you can win.

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Re: War - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13006.msg166433#msg166433
« Reply #22 on: September 28, 2010, 12:40:19 pm »
Why did we have the number of players go up by one but only have the number of starting cards go up by 20?  Before we had 6 players for 360 cards (enough for 2 30 card decks per person).  Then we added 40 extra cards to bid with (total 400 cards; meaning 8 cards per winning bid to get back to the 360).  But then we added another person but only 20 extra cards to bid with and make a couple extra decks with?  Shouldn't we have added 68 cards or a total of 468 cards (420 cards for 2 30-card decks per person plus about 8 cards per winning bid)?

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Re: War - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13006.msg166533#msg166533
« Reply #23 on: September 28, 2010, 04:35:08 pm »
Why did we have the number of players go up by one but only have the number of starting cards go up by 20?  Before we had 6 players for 360 cards (enough for 2 30 card decks per person).  Then we added 40 extra cards to bid with (total 400 cards; meaning 8 cards per winning bid to get back to the 360).  But then we added another person but only 20 extra cards to bid with and make a couple extra decks with?  Shouldn't we have added 68 cards or a total of 468 cards (420 cards for 2 30-card decks per person plus about 8 cards per winning bid)?
There was no system behind that initial 400, it was just a random even number I chose.

Current system is 60 cards per team member, which is a total of 420. There's no rule that we have to have specific number of cards after the auction so I don't see a problem here.

 

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