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Re: WAR - RULES https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6734.msg77800#msg77800
« Reply #120 on: May 30, 2010, 01:26:04 am »
a question please: if my team have 5 already build decks left, and in vault are - lets say 30 cards with 16 fire cards left, do the 6th member HAVE to play cause he is able to form something like a deck (but with no chance of winning, for example), or how does it work?

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Re: WAR - RULES https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6734.msg77823#msg77823
« Reply #121 on: May 30, 2010, 01:53:27 am »
a question please: if my team have 5 already build decks left, and in vault are - lets say 30 cards with 16 fire cards left, do the 6th member HAVE to play cause he is able to form something like a deck (but with no chance of winning, for example), or how does it work?
If he doesn't play I believe thats an automatic forfeit. Trying to build decks so all players have a decent chance of winning is part of this war.

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Re: WAR - RULES https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6734.msg77889#msg77889
« Reply #122 on: May 30, 2010, 03:49:35 am »
Unless all duels happen at the same time i thought 2 players could use the same deck.  Say player 1 duels Player A on day one and is done with the deck, can Player 2 duel player B with the same deck since Player 1 put the cards back in the vault?

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Re: WAR - RULES https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6734.msg77933#msg77933
« Reply #123 on: May 30, 2010, 05:25:02 am »
No, decks are determined at the beginning of the round; and cards are assigned to a given player until the round ends.  There's no swapping cards between players midway through a round.
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Re: WAR - RULES https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6734.msg78076#msg78076
« Reply #124 on: May 30, 2010, 01:41:03 pm »
that means, for example, i in vault are 90 fire cards left, and 90 of other elements, all players HAVE TO play a 15/15 deck, right?

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Re: WAR - RULES https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6734.msg78088#msg78088
« Reply #125 on: May 30, 2010, 02:10:00 pm »
That's a good question.  Does everyone have to make a deck if it's possible, or as in Antagon's example, can 5 people make 36 card decks and leave the 6th player out?  It seems it'd be a disadvantage to anyone making stall or deck-out decks if you have to make decks for everyone if you have the cards for it.

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Re: WAR - RULES https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6734.msg78093#msg78093
« Reply #126 on: May 30, 2010, 02:24:21 pm »
i think this is also an important issue when chosing vault.

it also would limit the possibilities for elements like time, cause at a point they will not be able to make 30++ card decks, they maybe designed.

i wonder noone thought of that before.

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Re: WAR - RULES https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6734.msg78186#msg78186
« Reply #127 on: May 30, 2010, 05:23:51 pm »
You always have to build a deck for everyone if possible, even if that means you have to build crappy decks. You cannot leave one player out by giving others bigger decks.

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Re: WAR - RULES https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6734.msg78196#msg78196
« Reply #128 on: May 30, 2010, 05:50:07 pm »
that means, for example, i in vault are 90 fire cards left, and 90 of other elements, all players HAVE TO play a 15/15 deck, right?
Can you in such a case make eg. one 30 :fire card deck, four 15/15 card decks and one 'illegal' 30 non-fire deck? Thus the 'illegal' one would auto-lose due to being illegal and you lose 30 cards (opponent salvages 6 of them) but it gives the other 5 players more versatility in designing their decks so that they might have much greater chances of winning.

Is that allowed?
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Re: WAR - RULES https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6734.msg78203#msg78203
« Reply #129 on: May 30, 2010, 06:07:26 pm »
that means, for example, i in vault are 90 fire cards left, and 90 of other elements, all players HAVE TO play a 15/15 deck, right?
Can you in such a case make eg. one 30 :fire card deck, four 15/15 card decks and one 'illegal' 30 non-fire deck? Thus the 'illegal' one would auto-lose due to being illegal and you lose 30 cards (opponent salvages 6 of them) but it gives the other 5 players more versatility in designing their decks so that they might have much greater chances of winning.

Is that allowed?
Nope. If you can build a legal deck for everyone, you have to do so. This is to prevent all kinds of "cheating" and to ensure that everyone gets to play as much as possible.

This is something teams have to take into consideration when building deck. You have to think about one move ahead. Otherwise you might find yourself in a situation where all you can do is build crappy decks for everyone.

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Re: WAR - RULES https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6734.msg78793#msg78793
« Reply #130 on: May 31, 2010, 04:00:16 pm »
Updated.

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Re: WAR - RULES https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6734.msg79078#msg79078
« Reply #131 on: May 31, 2010, 09:27:40 pm »
Sorry for all these "What if" questions but I think this scenario could likely happen and it's better to decide what will happen now rather than later where someone will likely feel cheated...

so for example...

It's like round 3 or something (round number doesnt matter...just, we're into the war a bit)... and team  :earth happens to have 186 cards left in their vault... They decide to make six 30-card decks... Terro, Demagog, Didonko, $$$man win, Puppy and Azumi lose... therefore they gain +24 cards and -60 cards (net -36) leaving them with 150 cards, exactly enough to make 5 decks...now what I want to know, is who is out the next round since only 5 members can participate? does Terro get to choose? can he choose from everyone or must he choose from either Puppy or Azumi since they lost?...

2nd question (same scenario, continued)...

so... obviously Terro decided to kick Puppy since he's one of the worst elements players ever, next round (round 4 if we stick with the previous example) however, all five earth members win netting them +30 cards...now, was Puppy eliminated from war altogether back when team  :earth only had 150 cards or does he now come back and make a deck since they have 180 cards?

 

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