War #9 - Voices of the Fallen

[worldwideweb3]

This topic is for teams to discuss why they lost and educate people in future wars so they don't make similar mistakes. It is also for people still in war and people outside of war to console fallen teams.

[rob77dp]

          

Each day dawns with a new light... Come back new next War, Team Light!!

[Vangelios]

  don't have a good moment, no master and last in war... this is my second favorite element, sad see it

[Blacksmith]

I'm really sad to see us in  going out first. We had the potential to go further but fate wanted something else.

Zso_Zso
The best general I've had. You are a very good deck builder, you know how to run a war in a very good way, you were crystal clear with what you wanted from your teammates from day one and you're good to work with. You have also been very active. Thank you for this war Zso!

Hainkarga
Some people said that this dude is invaluable in war. I can agree that you added a lot to the team while you were active. In your application post you said that your time was very limited, so from team  perspective I think you hold our expectations. It was fun to play with you and I hope to play with you again in the future, thank you.

Treebeard Xiii
I was looking forward to work with you this war. You said that your time was limited in your application. But not being able to even be in chat more than once in 8 rounds was far less than expected..... It would be good if you would describe your activity a bit more detailed next war.....

AD
I didn't know you and was looking forward to get to know you. I saw your farewell post and totally understand you, but it would have been good if you had mentioned this in your application.

seulintse
Honestly I didn't have very high expectations of you. I didn't add a lot to the team my first war, but at least you could have showed up in chat more than once when the rounds started.

Blacks
I could have done more but are overall satisfied with my participation.

  had two big setbacks this war. Going from 6th place with 18,255 ( when the average war vault was 18,239.83 ) to second last after deciding the vault was the first. Our average card cost counting shards was 65.2 and not counting shards it was 59.7. We were able to afford 10 shard and had a vault consisting of 280 cards. Our in element cards were so expensive we were forced to buy scrap cards like holy light just to make it 50% in element. I don't know how other team's vault looks like but I'm sure other teams got both more shards and cards. We need to find a way to balance this for next war. I will post something in the feedback thread later.

Our second setback was that after round 2 only I and Zso were active when deckbuilding. We also had 4*double gen round in a row from round 2-5. After that we was not able to compete. It's also here I blame myself for not doing more.

All in all it was fun to play for  again and I hope  will do a lot better next war.

[Odii Odsen]

Thanks for the details and your point of view.
I really can feel what you said about double Generals in multiple rounds in a row. I made the same experience once with darkness and suggested to think of a more fair system. But this suggestion was rejected.
I think this is one of the main reasons why team light is out of war earlier than other teams.

[Solaris]

The sun sets, and the Light fades from the world.

Hopefully I will be there when it rises again.

[ddevans96]

So...Water's out in 11th, maybe 10th. That really can't be considered anything but a failure after last war, where we finished 7th and I'd argue that was closer to our floor than our ceiling. Here's why:

I got arrogant, honestly. I thought I could mirror what I did in Trials - I was awful enough in 4 that I sat out 5 and prepped for the future, I was decent in 6, I was good enough to go toe-to-toe with Raving in 7, I beat Blacksmith comfortably in 8, and then I defended in 9. I thought being 11th in my first war as general and 7th last war meant I could pull off a similar series of progression.

So I rode on what I thought was my experience, I built my team in a different way than the relatively successful setups of War 8 and Brawl 4, I made some gambles in the vaultbuilding phase that backfired, I slacked a little in early deckbuilding phases, and my actions caused so many little mistakes that by the time I realized I was the problem, the damage was pretty deep and ultimately irreversible.

It's rare that I consider myself overly prideful and it's even rarer that I admit it, but I think this thread is the place for it.

To my team: I'm so sorry, I honestly feel that you could have been part of something really special in this war and I wound up being the cause of the majority of things that went wrong for us. I hope at the very least you enjoyed yourselves.

[dragonsdemesne]

And team death is out as well.

In wars 5 and 8 that I participated in, I knew exactly where to lay blame for the poor showings my team had at the time.  However, in this war, I cannot fault any of the decisions general rob made.  I think we had a strong vault and designed decks very well, and predicted our opponents as well as can be expected.  It is my belief that we simply had some very poor RNG in some of the early rounds, losing decks in matchups that statistically we were favoured in, which hampered our deckbuilding choices later on.  In all honesty, the only real mistake I can point to on our team was myself in (I think) round 7, where I faced ravingrabbid on team time and effed up the fifth game of a nailbiter match that I had the cards in hand to win no matter what he drew, but I made a blunder that cost both game and match.  (used grey nymph needlessly when I had bone wall in hand, ended up with 6 death quanta, couldn't play it, died to dragons next turn)  If it had happened earlier in war, I'd have been extremely displeased with myself (and still was), but at that point all it really did was screw us a round sooner than we would have been; lady RNG had already killed us, and the blunder was just euthanasia :p

I wish the remaining teams a fun remainder of the war and good luck.  I will add also that I am very impressed with Darkness this war, and given that my team has been eliminated, I now hope to see darkness take their first war title.

[rob77dp]

I have very few complaints about the results for Team Death this War.  I always hesitate to blame RNG but instead leave it to others to make that point (I would not disagree that a few rounds were quite rough despite otherwise good matchups on paper / decks).

This was a fun team - thank you to dragonsdemesne who was a trusty Lieutenant through out, available for strategizing, match playing, and substituting at almost any time it was needed or requested.  You were worth all 1,211 points paid to get you.  I look forward to teaming up on any future opportunities on team events.

ji412jo and eljoemo I got less than desired out of but not less than should be expected given various RL time constraints and such.  Both had input early and on many rounds early-on and did quite well letting the team know any time they were going to be busy or absent for a round or so.  Thanks for your contributions!

CrockettRocket and rockstar1723 were new to War but present enough to play almost all (if not) all matches they were assigned to.  If you read this post please don't let this War be your last PvP experience around here - keep taking the plunge into events and future Wars!



A blanket thank you goes out to opponents that made for fun duels, a few other players wiling to chat some about generalities of War and the state of the event, and the WM's+CuCNunofficial for keeping the event rolling (even if I still disagree on leaving it at 6-player teams for the auction).

[RulacMage11]

Spoiler for Hidden:

So...Water's out in 11th, maybe 10th. That really can't be considered anything but a failure after last war, where we finished 7th and I'd argue that was closer to our floor than our ceiling. Here's why:

I got arrogant, honestly. I thought I could mirror what I did in Trials - I was awful enough in 4 that I sat out 5 and prepped for the future, I was decent in 6, I was good enough to go toe-to-toe with Raving in 7, I beat Blacksmith comfortably in 8, and then I defended in 9. I thought being 11th in my first war as general and 7th last war meant I could pull off a similar series of progression.

So I rode on what I thought was my experience, I built my team in a different way than the relatively successful setups of War 8 and Brawl 4, I made some gambles in the vaultbuilding phase that backfired, I slacked a little in early deckbuilding phases, and my actions caused so many little mistakes that by the time I realized I was the problem, the damage was pretty deep and ultimately irreversible.

It's rare that I consider myself overly prideful and it's even rarer that I admit it, but I think this thread is the place for it.

To my team: I'm so sorry, I honestly feel that you could have been part of something really special in this war and I wound up being the cause of the majority of things that went wrong for us. I hope at the very least you enjoyed yourselves.

I thoroughly enjoyed my first war experience, and I'd even do it all over again even if we wound up last place! I never once questioned the leadership of you, or Jcj, as I always felt that I knew not as much of either as you - and I certainly don't!

That being said, the whole of Team Water felt really confident coming into War, and in the early rounds and that was quickly diminished. The longer War lasted, the more distraught and negative we became as a whole. But we fought through it.

You have nothing to be sorry for. The team we had was special in my opinion, even with my sudden real life issues that caused me to be afk for practically 2 1/2 rounds. And for that, I am sorry. I became a dead member in the team with no feedback or opinions simply because I had real life going on(and I know that's perfectly reasonable-) but I felt like I certainly held the team back because of it.


I don't have enough posts to put this in the proper section, so I'm going to do it here:

Spoiler for Hidden:

Goodbye.

My experience on this forum has been nothing short of fun and memorable, but I cannot stay here much longer. I simply have too much going on in life(mostly negative things) that I don't have time for the game or forums. One day I may return but it definitely won't be soon. Team Water: Ddevans, Jcj, Spiel, Espi, thank you so much for your support, from both my girlfriend and I. Knowing that you guys cared about what was going on, and being there for me even though I never opened up. And another thank you to Newbie for being such a good opponent and person in general. You were also there for me, even though I never told you what was going on.

And last but not least - A big thank you to the forum as a whole! You are all amazing people and I hope to be back someday. Don't let the war drama ruin your friendships and what you've built .

Ddevans, Jcj, and RR - I'll be back one day to take that Master of Water title. Be prepared! And if I don't, I'll still follow any of you into war!

[JonathanCrazyJ]

Dd's exaggerating. Awesome Person, Great Master, Good General. We all share the burden of our failure.

Really gutted about Rulac, he was a brilliant team member and a really nice guy, I really hope he comes back.

I'll leave you with a poem.

Treading Water

The depths, the waves, the currents quick,
Team Water braved vault arithmetic,
The friendships formed will truly stick,
But war, my friend, ain't no picnic,
Their lieutenant's a lunatic,
And RNG's a dick.
Frick.

[Submachine]

I'll leave you with a poem.

Treading Water

The depths, the waves, the currents quick,
Team Water braved vault arithmetic,
The friendships formed will truly stick,
But war, my friend, ain't no picnic,
Their lieutenant's a lunatic,
And RNG's a dick.
Frick.

Beautiful.
Be water my friend.~