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War #9 - market prices https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59115.msg1199968#msg1199968
« on: August 06, 2015, 03:02:57 pm »
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Re: War - market prices https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59115.msg1199971#msg1199971
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2015, 03:13:45 pm »
SoFo costing half than SoV is probably the most blatant inaccuracy I caught.
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Re: War - market prices https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59115.msg1199974#msg1199974
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2015, 03:18:51 pm »
SoFo costing half than SoV is probably the most blatant inaccuracy I caught.
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Re: War - market prices https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59115.msg1199977#msg1199977
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2015, 03:28:38 pm »
Why are Mark cards the same price as pillars and pendulums? They can be immaterial pillars if they match the deck's mark and they also add extra protection from quakes. Imo they should cost at least 2.
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Re: War - market prices https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59115.msg1199979#msg1199979
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2015, 03:32:26 pm »
Why are Mark cards the same price as pillars and pendulums? They can be immaterial pillars if they match the deck's mark and they also add extra protection from quakes. Imo they should cost at least 2.

If they would.... no one would buy those and they are already rare in the war as they are.... also, you have the problem that far from everyone on the team can use it so it's bad when you want to use a pend deck and no one else can take the marks.

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Re: War - market prices https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59115.msg1199983#msg1199983
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2015, 03:47:51 pm »
As for the market itself....
Weapons: Stiletto costing more then discord?  It fits in more decks.... but better??
Shield: bonewall price seems a bit low to me.
Permanent: looks fine.
spells: earthquake seems a bit low, so is flying weapon.
creatures: Red nymph price is high, arctic squid price is low (especially with a meta that allows sopa), blue nymph price is a bit low, devourer price is way too low and phase spider should be a bit higher.

Which still lets about 99% of the cards that the price seems right!

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Re: War - market prices https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59115.msg1199986#msg1199986
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2015, 03:56:30 pm »
As for the market itself....
Weapons: Stiletto costing more then discord?  It fits in more decks.... but better??
Shield: bonewall price seems a bit low to me.
Permanent: looks fine.
spells: earthquake seems a bit low, so is flying weapon.
creatures: Red nymph price is high, arctic squid price is low (especially with a meta that allows sopa), blue nymph price is a bit low, devourer price is way too low and phase spider should be a bit higher.

Which still lets about 99% of the cards that the price seems right!

Good job guys.

Prices were based on their usage (no of times used in winning decks last war). There is a usage coloumn for that. Like, stilleto was used 125 and discord was used 65 last war in winning decks. Modified prices of dev, red nymph and eq slightly.

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« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2015, 04:00:48 pm »
Overall, I like it. Shards are mostly priced above their value, but considering how many people don't want shards to be allowed whatsoever, I suppose it's a fair compromise. My only big suggestion is for Nymphs to be higher priced. The reason for their low usage is not due to being weak cards, for the most part; it's due to their unavailability to most players. If anything, their unavailability should be reason for a higher price, to lessen the arguably unfair disadvantage of players who do not have them.
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Re: War - market prices https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59115.msg1199991#msg1199991
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2015, 04:03:20 pm »
Overall, I like it. Shards are mostly priced above their value, but considering how many people don't want shards to be allowed whatsoever, I suppose it's a fair compromise. My only big suggestion is for Nymphs to be higher priced. The reason for their low usage is not due to being weak cards, for the most part; it's due to their unavailability to most players. If anything, their unavailability should be reason for a higher price, to lessen the arguably unfair disadvantage of players who do not have them.

Any nymphs in specific or all in general? (this goes to everyone else too, lemme know your opinions on nymphs)

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Re: War - market prices https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59115.msg1199993#msg1199993
« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2015, 04:24:00 pm »
Air Nymph is arguably the strongest, but there are others that are pretty strong too, such as  :water :time :earth. I don't so much like the idea of basing their cost on my subjective opinion of them, nor are the stats infallible because a team could have simply not had access to their Nymph even if they'd have liked to use it. Thus, I'd prefer an across-the-board cost increase.
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Re: War - market prices https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59115.msg1199997#msg1199997
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2015, 05:36:08 pm »
Prices were based on their usage (no of times used in winning decks last war). There is a usage coloumn for that. Like, stilleto was used 125 and discord was used 65 last war in winning decks. Modified prices of dev, red nymph and eq slightly.

Thanks for the feedback, it's appreciated!

The fact that it is used a lot means it fits well with most team as in... every grabbow use this ... but it is so few often a key card unlike discord is.  So to me usage is a great indicator but not the only one here.

As for nymphs well I compared them to one another and thought red was overpriced... but yeah we could boost most of em instead, including mostly   :air :time :water :earth as it was stated before

edit: shard of integrity is going to be absolutely useless given the price of the combo that would be needed to make it useful.... but just in case it's price should be way lower. I doubt a deck that would field only 6 SOI makes that much sense anyway especially when it's cost is higher then the rest.  SOI is pretty much only good to build a frankenshard which is good but far from invincible and the cost of roughly 20-25 shards in a deck is ridiculous
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Specially when the deck needs to be atleast 50% of your element.
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