War #8 - Round 5

[ddevans96]

A voided match has the salvage & discard reverted.

So, team life is salvaging higs' round3 reclusetal, and aether is discarding it, yes?
Just asking for clarification.

It's being treated as if the match never happened, so neither team salvages or discards.

[Vangelios]

Well if team aether agrees to be punished because of a "bug" strange but ok.
as they say here "being good for all the parts... turn the page"

[CrockettRocket]

Thanks WMs for doing your job, even on such an important matter.
I'm so thankful for not even applying for WM this war

[bripod]

The WM's and I agreed I'm sufficiently incriminated for them to incur the listed penalties. We also agreed there's no need to go into details since it's technical and not a public discussion.

Glossing over this as if it was just one of those "wrong place at the wrong time" issues does not bring closure. I'm sorry if the WM's and you deem the rest of the community not educated enough to understand technical aspects of the "evidence" to support such a massive penalty. And as for this being "not a public discussion"... well, rest assured, it is CERTAINLY a public discussion.

Still awaiting an Official Explanation from the WM's...

[serprex]

Higurashi's statements are official

[ZephyrPhantom]

While your honest response is appreciated, Higurashi, I think bripod has a point. The community should have a right to ask questions regarding the context of this penalty, which has shaken up War positions quite a bit. Even if it's just a bug, the issue as a whole should be made public or open to questions so other teams, be they future generations of , , or any other element can avoid such a large error in the future.

Higurashi's statements are official

I believe the issue is that the community wishes to know more surrounding the context of these errors. If this is something we can universally accept and move on with, more transparency would help that process. Leaving people in the dark only breeds rumors and misinformation, and official statements that use implications instead of facts will only create more drama.

[hainkarga]

No, team aether is not agreeing with WMs since that is not what i call  "doing their job properly".

Here is what i think: As they grabbed us by the balls, they thought they could give any amount of penalty as they please till they are satisfied. So they decided this much was enough to make us weak enough to lose while not making team aether look like martyrs.

Here is how i feel: I have done nothing wrong and feel like i am being punished for nothing.

[ZephyrPhantom]

The WM's and I agreed I'm sufficiently incriminated for them to incur the listed penalties. We also agreed there's no need to go into details since it's technical and not a public discussion. I'd rather take the hit and start fresh with more knowledge of this bug.

I can't regret enough that my team had to suffer, and there's no real way I can pay them back. Even if I were to join the next War on Aether and win them that War it wouldn't change what's happened here. If I could take all the penalty somehow, I would.

No, team aether is not agreeing with WMs since that is not what i call  "doing their job properly".

Here is what i think: As they grabbed us by the balls, they thought they could give any amount of penalty as they please till they are satisfied. So they decided this much was enough to make us weak enough to lose while not making team aether look like martyrs.

Here is how i feel: I have done nothing wrong and feel like i am being punished for nothing.

I believe it would be in Team 's best interests to review their stances on this position before they comment individually. Alternatively, it may be in Team and Warmater's best interests to communicate their individual feelings on the problem as opposed to meshing it into a general consensus.

[Vangelios]

No, team aether is not agreeing with WMs since that is not what i call  "doing their job properly".

Here is what i think: As they grabbed us by the balls, they thought they could give any amount of penalty as they please till they are satisfied. So they decided this much was enough to make us weak enough to lose while not making team aether look like martyrs.

Here is how i feel: I have done nothing wrong and feel like i am being punished for nothing.

Well now you spoke as a general, was finding it strange his stance on this case.
the question is, how far aether team may have benefited from this "bug"

[hainkarga]

Since i am the general, what i say applies. Higurashi feels like she is not in a position to discuss about the amount of penalty. What do you expect her to say ? I am more neutral to the issue and i represent team aether.

[ZephyrPhantom]

Since i am the general, what i say applies. Higurashi feels like she is not in a position to discuss about the amount of penalty. What do you expect her to say ? I am more neutral to the issue and i represent team aether.

You have divulged less actual information than Higurashi herself has about the issue. I again repeat that lack of transparency will only cause more drama in the long run.

@ Higurashi - How long has Team known of this bug?

[bripod]

I believe that it is in the Communities best interest to lay the cards on the table and have a very serious discussion about this matter ASAP.
As there has been no satisfactory explanation for this penalty, I agree with Hain... currently this whole situation stinks...