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Re: War #8 - Round 5 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56679.msg1166864#msg1166864
« Reply #24 on: November 19, 2014, 11:20:39 am »
poor aether? nah....
If WM's did not reveal the reason is because the thing is sad...  not forcing the ask.
Well after all if team aether not complain about this.... then we continue to play normally.
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Re: War #8 - Round 5 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56679.msg1166869#msg1166869
« Reply #25 on: November 19, 2014, 11:52:21 am »
Sometimes i feel that  :aether is like the dark power of stars wars . . .
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Re: War #8 - Round 5 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56679.msg1166879#msg1166879
« Reply #26 on: November 19, 2014, 02:19:04 pm »
I'll point out that a voided match without penalty is a net positive since net vault size is always decaying. In Round 2 Aether was in third last. 108 is -9 per voided match. Arguably a truly "fair" change would be to give everyone -9 for each voided match, or -9 for every voided match beyond the first one (ie -9 to Time, & -99 to Aether). Thus one could argue Aether has only been penalized 9 cards, & Time given the benefit of RNG

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Re: War #8 - Round 5 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56679.msg1166880#msg1166880
« Reply #27 on: November 19, 2014, 02:22:31 pm »
We still have NO EXPLANATION as to why such a stiff penalty was given to Aether.
 As indicated here and in Chat, many are concerned about this...

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Re: War #8 - Round 5 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56679.msg1166882#msg1166882
« Reply #28 on: November 19, 2014, 02:34:20 pm »
I'll point out that a voided match without penalty is a net positive since net vault size is always decaying. In Round 2 Aether was in third last. 108 is -9 per voided match. Arguably a truly "fair" change would be to give everyone -9 for each voided match, or -9 for every voided match beyond the first one (ie -9 to Time, & -99 to Aether). Thus one could argue Aether has only been penalized 9 cards, & Time given the benefit of RNG
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Re: War #8 - Round 5 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56679.msg1166884#msg1166884
« Reply #29 on: November 19, 2014, 02:37:44 pm »
I'll point out that a voided match without penalty is a net positive since net vault size is always decaying. In Round 2 Aether was in third last. 108 is -9 per voided match. Arguably a truly "fair" change would be to give everyone -9 for each voided match, or -9 for every voided match beyond the first one (ie -9 to Time, & -99 to Aether). Thus one could argue Aether has only been penalized 9 cards, & Time given the benefit of RNG
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Re: War #8 - Round 5 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56679.msg1166885#msg1166885
« Reply #30 on: November 19, 2014, 02:39:25 pm »
A voided match has the salvage & discard reverted. It is as if the match was replaced with a bye. If there was no penalty to Aether, their vault would be the same as it was in Round 2. Certainly any team would say having a vault remain constant in size over 2 rounds is a great performance. Thus, voided matches are to one's advantage, as if all one's matches are voided, one's vault size remains constant

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Re: War #8 - Round 5 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56679.msg1166886#msg1166886
« Reply #31 on: November 19, 2014, 02:45:02 pm »
Nobody should assume i am okay with this penalty. I'm not saying much because;
a) Unlike the community, i was aware of this sometime before round was announced. And it was tiresome.
b) They have not make the reasoning public yet.
c) I am demotivated and lost my belief in the event.

Regardless, going to play it out.
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Re: War #8 - Round 5 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56679.msg1166890#msg1166890
« Reply #32 on: November 19, 2014, 03:18:17 pm »
as i said , all have the fear of the dark power of :aether
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Re: War #8 - Round 5 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56679.msg1166917#msg1166917
« Reply #33 on: November 19, 2014, 05:33:05 pm »
Because they have cards for two battles:

0-74 cards=team is eliminated
75-109 cards=2 players fight
110-144 cards=3 players fight
145-179 cards=4 players fight
180-214 cards=5 players fight
215+ cards=6 players fight
Hm then why does  :earth and  :air play 6 matches wen both have less than 214 cards? and life 5 games instead of 4?
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Re: War #8 - Round 5 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56679.msg1166918#msg1166918
« Reply #34 on: November 19, 2014, 05:35:57 pm »
Becauses teams all got cards back for their losses against Aether in rounds 3 and 4.
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Re: War #8 - Round 5 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56679.msg1166921#msg1166921
« Reply #35 on: November 19, 2014, 05:41:10 pm »
Becauses teams all got cards back for their losses against Aether in rounds 3 and 4.
Ah the kakerstats just hasn't been updated yet. Thank you for info.

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