War #8 - Round 1

[ddevans96]

Can you please give your reasons for choosing this event card?

We can, but what do we get in return?

You get me not complaining in chat

No, but really, I'm just curious why you picked this one - it feels to me that it should be optional, could you explain why you decided to make betting mandatory?

[serprex]

One factor: Simulations were telling us War would be too many rounds. This EC is our attempt to appease our robot overlords. The EC's theme was chosen before this factor arose

[majofa]

Obviously, the warmasters haven't learned from previous wars since they came out with this one right out of the gate. Do us all a favor and make '0' an option.

[CCCombobreaker]

Dear Generals,

Now that you have a vault, (hahahahahaha we saw your vaults and still are laughing), cough up at least 18 of those cards.  Be honest you didn't want them anyways.

You may get 2 upgrades in a future match for each 3 cards you toss into the abyss.  Assuming we don't make you bet relics next round on something else

Sincerely,
 The not-so-friendly WMs

 

[CrockettRocket]

Most interesting match up imho: Jen-i VS Fippe.

[Higurashi]

So you stand to win back the cards you're forced to bet and the relics in addition.

Excellent. All you have to do is win.

[UTAlan]

So you stand to win back the cards you're forced to bet and the relics in addition.

Excellent. All you have to do is win.

Yep. Pretty sure only those who expect to lose have anything to complain about

[rob77dp]

So you stand to win back the cards you're forced to bet and the relics in addition.

Excellent. All you have to do is win.

... but WAIT!  The event's basic rules already have such "penalty for losing" built into it.  This event card just comes across as "doubling down" (I know, it is not quite full double loss, but I digress) losses right out of the gate as teams are getting rolling in the event for Round 1.

If this is the event card, then this is it and we'll make it happen.  However, the displeasure being voiced is not so casually dismiss-able by a "just win and it isn't a problem" statement.  <circularly refers back to opening statement about War already being built with rules that punish the losing teams>

[UTAlan]

Event Cards have various effects. This one rewards relics for wins (or losses if you bet that you will lose) and punishes losses with discards. I'm personally okay with that, but you are welcome to voice your displeasure with it.

[Submachine]

I request a betting example.

Can the following happen?:
Team A bets that they win 2 lose 4 and Team B bets that they win 0 lose 6. The result will be 3-3 and none of the teams win the bets. Or will one team always win the bet?

[Fippe94]

You bet win/loss on each matchup. Example: Bet 3 cards for Win on match X vs Y, bet 9 cards on Loss for match Z vs W, and so on...

[deuce22]

You bet win/loss on each matchup. Example: Bet 3 cards for Win on match X vs Y, bet 9 cards on Loss for match Z vs W, and so on...

this is example is correct. You do not have to bet on yourself to win. And you are only betting on your team's matches (so 6 bets in total), not ALL matches.

Obviously, the warmasters haven't learned from previous wars since they came out with this one right out of the gate. Do us all a favor and make '0' an option.

not gonna happen. Discards are only 9 this round and vaults are currently huge. If there was any time to use this card, it's round 1.

By betting the minimum, the worst case scenario is you suck at predicting and lose 18 cards (less than 5% of any vault) in addition to the cards gained/lost through salvage/discard. Best case scenario is you predict all 6 correctly and you gain 6 relics without losing additional cards.