War #7 - Rules

[hainkarga]

We can't transmute to cards over 6 ? Why ?

[Dm]

Add to Q&A -

"If my internet is bad and can crash constantly, I can't play in War because of possible disconnects, despite the situation the field is currently in?"

On a more serious note... that rule is just wat. Allow the players to screenshot the field and contact a WM if possible to get a better outcome, or give the players the option to redo if they want (even though we can still do it, it's just against the rules.)

[Jenkar]

Asking two clarifications :
a) 50% rule for spoils applies at the end of every round?
b) transmutation is only for the cards you salvage in a round for spoils too? You can't tansmute cards that you put in spoils a round before?

[Helston]

Asking two clarifications :
a) 50% rule for spoils applies at the end of every round?
b) transmutation is only for the cards you salvage in a round for spoils too? You can't tansmute cards that you put in spoils a round before?

a) 50% does apply at the end of every round.
b) Only for the cards you've salvaged. Once a card's in your spoils, you can't change it.

Also, any war betting this time - official/non-official?

Unfortunately not this time around.

Ok, so I got to thinking, since you cannot transmute to cards over 6 I was wondering how the sequence for Transmuting/Discarding/Salvaging was.

To make my problem more clear, let's come with an example illustrating the different possibilities:

Spoiler for rather long example:

Say we're in round 3 deckbuilding, round 2 just ended, I'm on team water.
Team water had 5 Floodings in their vault during round 2, they went 3-3 during duels.
One of the decks that lost has them discarding 2 Floodings.
One of the decks they beat has them salvaging 3 Floodings.
Team water wants to know how many Floodings they can transmute:

• 0. Discarding -> Salvaging -> Transmuting.
  After Water discards 2 Floodings and salvages 3 they have 6, which means they may transmute no more.
• 1. Transmuting -> Discarding -> Salvaging.
  Water had 5 Floodings last round so they may transmute salvage into 1.
• 2. you don't know wtf I am talking about and give me this bs answer.
• 3. Discarding -> Transmuting -> Salvaging.
  After Water discards 2 Floodings they have 3, meaning they may transmute to up to 3. After that they are free to salvage however much they want, including those 3 I mentioned earlier which would result to them having 9 in the end.

Although not the most likely situation this can happen. I know the team it happens to would prefer the last option, but it's also the one most prone to give you a penalty (one I prefer to avoid by asking for clarification beforehand)

Discarding > Salvaging > Transmuting

[Jenkar]

Where do penalties fit in that, helston? At same time as discarding?

[Afdarenty]

I'd also like to know where conversions fit in.

[rem4life]

Would sound logical to be penalties/discarding>salvaging>transmuting>converting

[rob77dp]

Would sound logical to be penalties/discarding>salvaging>transmuting>converting

I simply am going by the order in the suggested "S T D C P" template topic from WM's.  Which is S/T > D > C > P with that "P" being 'part of the next round'.  In other words, it seems the Round 1 P is for penalty discards from Round 1 and the rest of Round 2 deckbuilding phase is the S/T > D > C in your Round 2 post for it.    This is just how Death has been doing this aspect.

Edit:  Per WM's, I was incorrect.  Nothing to see here, folks.

[Belligerence]

I simply am going by the order in the suggested "S T D C P" template topic from WM's.  Which is S/T > D > C > P with that "P" being 'part of the next round'.  In other words, it seems the Round 1 P is for penalty discards from Round 1 and the rest of Round 2 deckbuilding phase is the S/T > D > C in your Round 2 post for it.    This is just how Death has been doing this aspect.

Discarding > Salvaging > Transmuting

[rob77dp]

It seems to have been answered but perhaps could be done more clearly...

WM's-

Can you verify if I am correct here (or correct as needed)?

Code: [Select]

PDSTC: Penalty <then> Discard <then> Salvage <then> Transmute <then> Conversion (on Main Vault).

Main Vault

•Conversion

     ◦Any card into in-element Pillar or Pendulum (at 1-to-1 ratio limit 24 per round)

•Transmutation

     ◦Up to 2 cards of Salvage into in-element (at 1-to-1 ratio limit maximum 6 of that card)

Spoils Vault

•Transmutation

     ◦Any off-element into in-element (at 1-to-1 ratio)

     ◦Any off-element into off-element (at 2-to-1 ratio)


[Belligerence]

It seems to have been answered but perhaps could be done more clearly...

WM's-

Can you verify if I am correct here (or correct as needed)?

Code: [Select]

PDSTC: Penalty <then> Discard <then> Salvage <then> Transmute <then> Conversion (on Main Vault).

Main Vault

•Conversion

     ◦Any card into in-element Pillar or Pendulum (at 1-to-1 ratio limit 24 per round)

•Transmutation

     ◦Up to 2 cards of Salvage into in-element (at 1-to-1 ratio limit maximum 6 of that card)

Spoils Vault

•Transmutation

     ◦Any off-element into in-element (at 1-to-1 ratio)

     ◦Any off-element into off-element (at 2-to-1 ratio)


This is correct.