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Re: War #7 - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50863.msg1094160#msg1094160
« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2013, 07:48:33 pm »
Transmutation is new to me, so please bear with my questions.
  • You can only transmute cards that you salvage, correct? i.e. you can't transmute other cards in your vault.
  • Under #4.1 - "Two salvaged cards may be transmuted into any in-element which you do not already have 6 copies of in your Vault"
    When first building vault, the number of copies for in-element card is different. Is this intentional? i.e. if I'm in team entropy, it's impossible to have more than 15 novas at any time.

  • General question - since there's no vaultgdocsthingy this time, may I assume it's compulsory for the teams to create the necessary topics (decks/dsctp)each round? I couldn't find that in the rules.

I might have some questions about spoils too, but I'll wait for the response to torb's question first.

1. Correct, transmutation is done using Salvaged cards.
2. Intentional.
3. Yes, Vault management will be done through forum posts.


Everyone else:

War Spoils have no limits on how many cards may be Transmuted, outside of the 6 Salvage limitation.

Salvage Transmutations (for normal Vault, not War Spoils) are limited to 2 cards, per win, and are in-element only.

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Re: War #7 - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50863.msg1094344#msg1094344
« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2013, 12:07:30 pm »
Transmutation is new to me, so please bear with my questions.
  • 2. Under #4.1 - "Two salvaged cards may be transmuted into any in-element which you do not already have 6 copies of in your Vault"

2. Intentional.


To add a little further clarification, Entropy can salvage all the Novas they want into their Vault (so if they face enough novabows, they could end up with say 120 Novas). However, they can only transmute Novas into their Vault if they have less than 6.
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Re: War #7 - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50863.msg1094466#msg1094466
« Reply #14 on: August 25, 2013, 11:29:30 am »
Thanks for the clarification to both of you. I think I already got that mixed up right from the start...

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Re: War #7 - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50863.msg1094477#msg1094477
« Reply #15 on: August 25, 2013, 01:49:13 pm »
Is it possible to highlight the rules that has been different from the previous war? (I know I am lazy)
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Re: War #7 - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50863.msg1094840#msg1094840
« Reply #16 on: August 27, 2013, 02:31:54 pm »
(2.4) War spoils take effect AFTER round 8
(4.1) there are no spoils to be gained during round 8
(2.4) after round 8, the top 4 teams are determined based on the amount of spoils and fight it out

Thus, round 8 is essentially a dead round...unless i am missing something

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Re: War #7 - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50863.msg1094850#msg1094850
« Reply #17 on: August 27, 2013, 03:41:18 pm »
(2.4) War spoils take effect AFTER round 8
(4.1) there are no spoils to be gained during round 8
(2.4) after round 8, the top 4 teams are determined based on the amount of spoils and fight it out

Thus, round 8 is essentially a dead round...unless i am missing something

needs fixing?
If you fail in round 8, you lose. The top 4 teams are determined after round 8.

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Re: War #7 - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50863.msg1094852#msg1094852
« Reply #18 on: August 27, 2013, 03:51:09 pm »
Not really, since even if your team is technically dead (<30 cards) in R8, it can still be ressurected in R9 if it's the top 4.

(said by Wiz, when i wondered)

If you meant failing not as in dying : how would it matter since it doesn't impact the spoils, ie top 4 teams (spoils) from R7 = top 4 teams (spoils) from R8.
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Re: War #7 - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50863.msg1094855#msg1094855
« Reply #19 on: August 27, 2013, 04:01:54 pm »
Not really, since even if your team is technically dead (<30 cards) in R8, it can still be ressurected in R9 if it's the top 4.

(said by Wiz, when i wondered)

If you meant failing not as in dying : how would it matter since it doesn't impact the spoils, ie top 4 teams (spoils) from R7 = top 4 teams (spoils) from R8.
By failing i meant, falling behind #4.  Ah, i thought the top 4 is not determined by spoils, but by vault size.

Yeah, round 8 is useless.
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Re: War #7 - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50863.msg1094856#msg1094856
« Reply #20 on: August 27, 2013, 04:09:00 pm »
you fail so hard ave, no idea why anyone would want you on their war team...

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Re: War #7 - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50863.msg1094858#msg1094858
« Reply #21 on: August 27, 2013, 04:18:13 pm »
Under point #2.4 - "Once the War Spoils are in effect, teams will Salvage 6 cards for each duel won, and Discard 27 cards for each duel lost."

Unless I'm missing the point here, I think everything should be fine.

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Re: War #7 - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50863.msg1094864#msg1094864
« Reply #22 on: August 27, 2013, 05:24:59 pm »
Under point #2.4 - "Once the War Spoils are in effect, teams will Salvage 6 cards for each duel won, and Discard 27 cards for each duel lost."

Unless I'm missing the point here, I think everything should be fine.

I think you are missing the point...

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Re: War #7 - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50863.msg1094898#msg1094898
« Reply #23 on: August 27, 2013, 08:33:58 pm »
War Spoils (6 cards) are still Salvaged from R8 and placed in War Spoils. That's the intention, anyway.

 

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