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Re: War #6 - Round 9 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47948.msg1053736#msg1053736
« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2013, 06:22:30 am »
I know i'm blunt, but please come to your senses. It is very irrational to make support effect vault size or give insane amount of ups. We  have been banned from support not only this round but all rounds so far. From aether's perspective, all support rule has done was unstoppable harm to us. Just because we are leading shouldn't mean you should bring EC's that only harms us.
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Re: War #6 - Round 9 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47948.msg1053743#msg1053743
« Reply #13 on: March 24, 2013, 08:07:09 am »
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Re: War #6 - Round 9 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47948.msg1053745#msg1053745
« Reply #14 on: March 24, 2013, 08:38:14 am »
A bit of explaining on the EC plz.

Assuming entropy beats aether x2, do they salvage 3 extra per match from the aether matches or from all their matches?
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Aether gets 9 salvage for each of their entropy matches, 6 salvage for other matches (assuming they beat air/time only once each).
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LOL. Good rule. We get beaten x2 and get 9 salvage for each of our entropy matches. I don't know why Hain complains :D
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Re: War #6 - Round 9 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47948.msg1053747#msg1053747
« Reply #15 on: March 24, 2013, 08:57:43 am »
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How very climatic choice of words. It feels like a prelude to a second rate erotic movie. WHO WRITES THESE THINGS ?!?

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Re: War #6 - Round 9 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47948.msg1053748#msg1053748
« Reply #16 on: March 24, 2013, 09:04:58 am »
I know i'm blunt, but please come to your senses. It is very irrational to make support effect vault size or give insane amount of ups. We  have been banned from support not only this round but all rounds so far. From aether's perspective, all support rule has done was unstoppable harm to us. Just because we are leading shouldn't mean you should bring EC's that only harms us.

Air has the opportunity to gain 6 relics and 27 cards with a perfect round.
Aether has the opportunity to gain 54 cards with a perfect round.

Aether hasn't lost out on this EC yet.
« Last Edit: March 24, 2013, 02:59:46 pm by Helston »
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Re: War #6 - Round 9 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47948.msg1053751#msg1053751
« Reply #17 on: March 24, 2013, 09:23:03 am »
I know i'm blunt, but please come to your senses. It is very irrational to make support effect vault size or give insane amount of ups. We  have been banned from support not only this round but all rounds so far. From aether's perspective, all support rule has done was unstoppable harm to us. Just because we are leading shouldn't mean you should bring EC's that only harms us.

Air has the opportunity to gain 6 relics and 27 cards with a perfect round.
Aether has the opportunity to gain 54 cards with a perfect round, which would put them 11 cards short of their starting vault.

Aether hasn't lost out on this EC yet.

You make it look like 2d4 is the same as 1d8 (in D&D terms). It is true we didn't lose much this round, but this is the first round where 'joinedarmy' doesn't have any infights.
So, everyone can focus on us :D

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Re: War #6 - Round 9 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47948.msg1053773#msg1053773
« Reply #18 on: March 24, 2013, 01:36:59 pm »
Air has the opportunity to gain 6 relics and 27 cards with a perfect round.
Aether has the opportunity to gain 54 cards with a perfect round, which would put them 11 cards short of their starting vault.

Aether hasn't lost out on this EC yet.

Helston, that is very biased point of view. You make it sound as if having 6 matches is a good thing. If you are new to war, flash news: No, it is not a good thing!

You are puting it like;
"Aether having 6 matches (which you think is good for us) negates the fact that other teams are being given insane number of upped cards plus chance to gain extra relics (support) without any risk to lose cards."

I'll tell you the facts:
Aether having 6 matches is a great disadvantage for aether, even the noobs know this: (numbers excluding EC)
* We have a chance to win all 6 (with 18 freaking upped cards disadvantage) that earns us 36 (+5 SB i guess) cards.
On the flip side;
* And we have  a chance to lose all 6 which nets us -162 cards.
Also;
* We are having to convert our cards to be able to field 6 decks, others don't. Our effective decks are limited. Unlike others, we MUST field some inferior decks with very little ups because we are being forced to field 6. And after this round, we may have to field suicide decks if we lose 3, others don't.


joinedmerryband have a chance to gain tons of relics without any risk to shrink their vault. We don't. They always had this chance while we were banned from support. Now you are giving more loser exclusive ups through ECs ?

You do realize it would be the happiest thing for us to do 2-3 round matches like the others (while preserving our rightful vault, like others) and do 3 support matches. Just the opposite of the way you grasp the concept.

We risk losing cards to be able to benefit from EC, others just enjoy buff to support (again, which we are still / have been banned from since the beginning)

edit: Fixed some numbers
edit2: I'm not writing this in the name of my team. As always, this is my personal post.
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Re: War #6 - Round 9 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47948.msg1053782#msg1053782
« Reply #19 on: March 24, 2013, 03:02:10 pm »
Hain, I wasn't trying to antagonise yourself or Team Aether, so I apologise if I came off that way. It is obvious that more matchups is often a bad thing either forcing suicides or all around weaker decks. My point was that Aether has more to gain from this event card, and round in general, if they win enough matches, which of course requires them to get the wins in the first place.
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Re: War #6 - Round 9 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47948.msg1053785#msg1053785
« Reply #20 on: March 24, 2013, 03:16:45 pm »
Just make a rule for next War, hainkarga has to be on Team :life ... instead of easy :aether

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Re: War #6 - Round 9 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47948.msg1053786#msg1053786
« Reply #21 on: March 24, 2013, 03:24:37 pm »
Just make a rule for next War, hainkarga has to be on Team :life ... instead of easy :aether
why do not you try to be master of aether?, then hainkarga will have to wait for other bids.
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Re: War #6 - Round 9 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47948.msg1053794#msg1053794
« Reply #22 on: March 24, 2013, 03:58:25 pm »
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Re: War #6 - Round 9 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47948.msg1053797#msg1053797
« Reply #23 on: March 24, 2013, 04:20:20 pm »
So much hate. You think i'm in aether because it is strong ? Me & higs are the only hipsters of aether around here. i was an aether zealot years before it was cool.
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