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Re: War #5 - Voices of the Fallen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40851.msg516481#msg516481
« Reply #84 on: June 29, 2012, 08:10:26 pm »
Still needs hard PC.

6 PC in one element OP!

He's probably joking (and it's actually 7 - icebolt+voodoo).
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Re: War #5 - Voices of the Fallen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40851.msg516493#msg516493
« Reply #85 on: June 29, 2012, 09:24:04 pm »
Still, there are elements with even less PC. And apparently :death won a war without it.

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Re: War #5 - Voices of the Fallen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40851.msg516495#msg516495
« Reply #86 on: June 29, 2012, 09:27:03 pm »
Still, there are elements with even less PC. And apparently :death won a war without it.
Death was probably the worst argument you could pick. Death has an in element card that pops out the shields : poison. Water's only ''around the shield" possibility is ice bolt (quite weak) and, possibly, chrysaora.
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Re: War #5 - Voices of the Fallen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40851.msg516704#msg516704
« Reply #87 on: June 30, 2012, 12:01:16 pm »
Still, there are elements with even less PC. And apparently :death won a war without it.
Death was probably the worst argument you could pick. Death has an in element card that pops out the shields : poison. Water's only ''around the shield" possibility is ice bolt (quite weak) and, possibly, chrysaora.

Also op shield to boot.
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Re: War #5 - Voices of the Fallen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40851.msg516705#msg516705
« Reply #88 on: June 30, 2012, 12:10:44 pm »
Skulls are indeed OP.
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Re: War #5 - Voices of the Fallen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40851.msg518450#msg518450
« Reply #89 on: July 06, 2012, 02:13:27 pm »
Well, it's not easy to be in the most hated team...and to be the most hated player.
Well, RNG was stupid in 3 matches but that's not showing us mistakes.
Us mistakes were to be predictable early and already loss a few cards, after we got that we needed to be less predictable we started to win.
But then R6 came, we were predicted 2 times: losing Bonebolt and Firestall and being RNGed 2 times, losing us Golems and Fractix, if any of those decks were alive we had the upper hand in winning the war.
From R7 the hate began, we refused to take the salvage, which basically kept us on a sweet spot, salvaging would mean getting to 2 decks, one being semi-suicide, which would be simply stupid.
We used unexpected decks 3 rounds in a row, which gave us a much needed advantage, but after that we lost in a grabbow vs. grabbow and then lost to a almost perfect counter, so that's what happened with team fire.
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Re: War #5 - Voices of the Fallen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40851.msg518453#msg518453
« Reply #90 on: July 06, 2012, 02:21:49 pm »
After a great run, team  :fire will watch the final battle from the stands.  We had a great bunch of players, that contributed any way they could, though I gotta give special praise to glennfoo who came out of nowhere before this war, to Calindu for so many side decks and to Selinea who went almost perfect in the matches for relics. 

Now that we are dead I can say something we kept hidden.... we we're terrified bu the idea of  being in a supposed sweet spot but if we lost to an assasin we we're dead so this could hve been a terrible decision for us (62 cards -30 and -3 from assasin =29).  Fortunately, other teams either decide to go greedy on us and sent a salvager or sent a lieutenant because they didn't think of it or didn't think it was the thing to do.

As with always, war needs tweaking but it's been a great ride for us and I will be there for war 6 for sure! ;D

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Re: War #5 - Voices of the Fallen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40851.msg518512#msg518512
« Reply #91 on: July 06, 2012, 06:05:28 pm »
we we're terrified bu the idea of  being in a supposed sweet spot but if we lost to an assasin we we're dead so this could hve been a terrible decision for us (62 cards -30 and -3 from assasin =29).  Fortunately, other teams either decide to go greedy on us and sent a salvager or sent a lieutenant because they didn't think of it or didn't think it was the thing to do.
Actually, i told Deuce to do exactly this.

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Re: War #5 - Voices of the Fallen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40851.msg518526#msg518526
« Reply #92 on: July 06, 2012, 07:11:44 pm »
thanks mrpaper, and to note, I think I won all my support battles :) thanks Calindu for those side decks. guess I can put it in my resume for next war ??

first of all, i want to thank the warmasters for the good work. I am glad I join war. I really enjoy them. And to be in my favourite team, I am really glad. My first thanks goes to Youngsot for bidding on me. Thank you. I know it is a hard decision to bid me with so many cards, since there are many expensive players in the team already. But I believe I do not waste the bids on me right?? :)

there is not a single day mrpaper and calindu not online in war chat, even during exam, calindu and I try to sneak in a few hours in war chat. when youngsot goes for a vacation, the three of us are online every day, trying to think of a good deck. during the earlier rounds, the chat is always full with the teammates. it is usual to see 5-7 people in war chat. of course during the later rounds, real life priorities come first, but luckily calindu and I finished exam, and we can continue the later rounds.
what i am impressed is the teamwork. For someone first time in war, I am really impressed. People across countries, meeting together in a small chat, to talk on war and stuff. I do not regret changing my sleeping time to join my teammates( most are from west), I am just too impressed with their spirits and I do not want to miss out the fun :) I believe the same goes to other teams.

I do not watch soccer, but I think I understand how those supporters must have felt when the soccer players are on the field. Even from my laptop, I am nervous watching my teammates play, and being more nervous playing the games myself, palpitating since I know I am playing against experienced players. I think I will have a heart attack if I am going to play 6 matches in one time. Now that I think about it, I am laughing at myself.

What I really mean is this, if this happens in my team, the same goes to the other 11 teams, where the friendship among the teammates goes stronger. I am proud to make new friends with mrpaper, calindu, youngsot, utalan, vagman, selinea, as well as making new friends with opponents. but as the war goes longer, with so much time spent in it, one cannot help being slightly more aggresive towards opponent. and being in the team that has won the war 2 times does not help the situation( why didn't i join forum earlier \(:0)/ )

had I been in other team or watching from the side, I will not want  :fire to win. So i understand all the comments in main chat. at first, i am wondering why the hate on fire, when we are just a bunch of guys trying to survive( round 6 is really a downfall, I do not think I sleep that night ). I thought it is a personal attack to fire itself, but onizuka kindly explains to me what really happen in war 1-4, and how balanced is the :fire element, compared to others. I agree. I misunderstood those in chat. For those who already do not like fire in the first place, well..... \(-_-)/

The war brought more tension between the last few teams. And being in sweet spot does not help. And I have to say it hurts a little to see people booing when fire win. way to put a wet blanket. But just think a little, if anyone end up like us in the sweet spot, will anyone took salvage? if the rules are faulty, then change the rules, not blaming the players. the rage should goes to changing the rules, not making personal attack to the players. That is what I feel, not because I am in  :fire team, but because this should not happen to future wars. But of course, these attacks cannot be avoided, and since I am in the team that won 2 wars, I just have to accept them.

Just wondering though,  in every war, the teammates will be different every time right?? except the general, the team has new members every time.  :fire has won 2 times, I agree, but does that mean the new players in  :fire team should not be given the chance to win?? Food for thought. If  :fire wins every single war, then i think maybe it is time to do something about it. but what if the first and third war is the only war won by  :fire?? but anyway since  :fire is a powerful and more balanced element, fire will always have the chance to be the top team. I guess I am glad my favourite element is  :fire and i am in  :fire team this time :)


about the propaganda, well I am sorry. that is all I can say. To be honest, I do not realise the drama that will happen. When I am gathering votes, I gather many votes for other teams indirectly too. each has 2 votes, remember??  I am not saying what I did is right. But who makes a banner, goes to the street walking silently and expecting people to see?? putting up advertisement on wall and expect others to see it?? I actually put a lot of effort in the banner and suggests song and videos to youngsot even  before the auction itself. and the time spent private messaging the members explaning on war and asking for support, it took really a lot of effort too, I am not joking. I am glad I got the 9 cards.
sorry about the drama, as I do not realise I am the only one doing so in 12 teams. rules never told me I am wrong, even the warmaster( Mith) told me the same thing.  something will be done in future propaganda, but if none, then I will not seek the votes anymore. I am sorry.
we we're terrified bu the idea of  being in a supposed sweet spot but if we lost to an assasin we we're dead so this could hve been a terrible decision for us (62 cards -30 and -3 from assasin =29).  Fortunately, other teams either decide to go greedy on us and sent a salvager or sent a lieutenant because they didn't think of it or didn't think it was the thing to do.
Actually, i told Deuce to do exactly this.


U did?? I thought no one notice, and I thought we have been lucky. thanks deuce22. good luck in your match later :)
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Re: War #5 - Voices of the Fallen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40851.msg518532#msg518532
« Reply #93 on: July 06, 2012, 07:51:14 pm »
Actually, i told Deuce to do exactly this.

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U did?? I thought no one notice, and I thought we have been lucky. thanks deuce22. good luck in your match later :)
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Well, i think he thought we couldn't win without the ups. And i think he also thought, we can beat :time easily, then beat your remaining deck.
Some miscalculation there, i guess :D
Of the 3 last teams, everyone had their moment of glory, and any of them could have been the winner.
So, despite the sweet spot drama I think this war was more or less balanced.
And I agree, every team would have went with the no salvage option, the rules for subbing/salvage might need some adjustment.
Also, I don't like the propaganda part, where popularity decides a lot. I think you did right with your personal lobbying, that's part of propaganda.
Still, propaganda itself sucks.

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Re: War #5 - Voices of the Fallen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40851.msg518538#msg518538
« Reply #94 on: July 06, 2012, 08:45:02 pm »
For the record, I suggested it initially as well, but ultimately decided against it because if we beat fire once, the second battle would be an easy win (6 dims usually OP). Therefore went with the 3 extra upgrades to give ourselves a very minor boost that ultimately didn't matter because steamies > lightning.

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Re: War #5 - Voices of the Fallen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40851.msg518541#msg518541
« Reply #95 on: July 06, 2012, 09:32:14 pm »
Assasinating fire to get them out of war was primary school maths. Why is everyone speaking as if it was very a very hard thing to think of ?
Of course we knew, everyone knew. We wanted ups, period.
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