War #5 - Rules

[majofa]

kev, does assassin damage or discard happen first?  In other words if the assassin is killing our only Aether Pillar can I discard it first from our Aether duo deck that lost this round, thereby breaking the system?

No.  Do the assassin damage first and then discard.  Later in the Event when you discard 30 from your 30-card deck, if an assassin damages a card that you are already forced to discard, you may select one card from your vault instead.

Easily abusable.

[Jenkar]

kev, does assassin damage or discard happen first?  In other words if the assassin is killing our only Aether Pillar can I discard it first from our Aether duo deck that lost this round, thereby breaking the system?

No.  Do the assassin damage first and then discard.  Later in the Event when you discard 30 from your 30-card deck, if an assassin damages a card that you are already forced to discard, you may select one card from your vault instead.

Easily abusable.

May :
"2. (used to express opportunity or permission): You may enter."

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/may

[majofa]

kev, does assassin damage or discard happen first?  In other words if the assassin is killing our only Aether Pillar can I discard it first from our Aether duo deck that lost this round, thereby breaking the system?

No.  Do the assassin damage first and then discard.  Later in the Event when you discard 30 from your 30-card deck, if an assassin damages a card that you are already forced to discard, you may select one card from your vault instead.

Easily abusable.

May :
"2. (used to express opportunity or permission): You may enter."

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/may

I will take this opportunity to not discard extra cards, since you gave me permission.

[Jenkar]

He didn't give you permission not to discard, only to discard.

[kev]

kev, does assassin damage or discard happen first?  In other words if the assassin is killing our only Aether Pillar can I discard it first from our Aether duo deck that lost this round, thereby breaking the system?

No.  Do the assassin damage first and then discard.  Later in the Event when you discard 30 from your 30-card deck, if an assassin damages a card that you are already forced to discard, you may select one card from your vault instead.

Easily abusable.

Updated my language above.

[Sevs]

That is like saying "Can I get some water?" and then getting the stupid response "I don't know, can you?" Same as if you said "May I hold it?" I think it was reasonable to say it wasnt going to be interpreted that way

[Onizuka]

That is like saying "Can I get some water?" and then getting the stupid response "I don't know, can you?" Same as if you said "May I hold it?" I think it was reasonable to say it wasnt going to be interpreted that way

Its also probably reasonable to say that everyone will play their match when they can

[Jenkar]

That is like saying "Can I get some water?" and then getting the stupid response "I don't know, can you?" Same as if you said "May I hold it?" I think it was reasonable to say it wasnt going to be interpreted that way

Its also probably reasonable to say that everyone will play their match when they can

Context makes meaning. Here, imo, context made meaning evident, and not in majo's way.

[bogtro]

A fair point that I don't think has been addressed: if only Lt. is allowed to submit/control support team actions, then does this responsibility move to Generals once they are the only remaining player?

[kev]

A fair point that I don't think has been addressed: if only Lt. is allowed to submit/control support team actions, then does this responsibility move to Generals once they are the only remaining player?

No.  Please assign someone as Lt even if you don't intend that player to field a deck.

Edit: That player is still available for Support Team actions.

[kev]

I'd like if this was considered as an alternative to strategic subbing :
[20:06:11] bjessee: ‹@Jenkar› But can't you say up front that "if we win, we do not want salvage" basically letting someone sub for themselves?

If a team PMs me before their match starts, they may elect not to salvage.  It's silly to actually require you to sub.

In an ideal world there'd be no strategic subbing at all but there's no way to eliminate it, at least under the current ruleset.  Still, I have a feeling someone this War will strategically sub and miss a bye as a result.  And people will point and laugh.

[Jenkar]

kev, does assassin damage or discard happen first?  In other words if the assassin is killing our only Aether Pillar can I discard it first from our Aether duo deck that lost this round, thereby breaking the system?

No.  Do the assassin damage first and then discard.  Later in the Event when you discard 30 from your 30-card deck, if an assassin damages a card that you are already forced to discard, select one card from your vault instead.

This also applies for event cards?
Also, say that assassins a card that i have 0 of after being forced to discard it. But! i can salvage it. Do i have to salvage it/discard it if i salvage it?