War #4 - Round 5

[agentflare]

Btw everyone should feel free to use this thred to post your true Event Card intentions and other mind games here.

Team Death is going to choose Betrayal for every single match.
There is absolutely nothing you can do to change our decision.

Sorry. Hopefully you can be reasonable enough to make the best of a bad situation instead of making it worse.

This is absolutely true. It shall be done.

[DarkArk]

We thought picking only one was too mainstream, so to be different we picked a blend of both. We haven't yet decided whether to call it "Hetrayal" or "Bonor".

I vote for "Bonor"

[Jocko]

We, team aether, will be chosing honor for all of our matches.

[bripod]

Just looking for a little clarification.

Team A chooses: Honor
Team B chooses: Betray

Team A wins, the Salvage for Team A is 3 and the discard for Team B is 27.

Team B wins, the Salvage for Team B is 9 and the discard for Team A is 21.

Is this correct or am I missing something?

[Jocko]

Just looking for a little clarification.

Team A chooses: Honor
Team B chooses: Betray

Team A wins, the Salvage for Team A is 3 and the discard for Team B is 27.

Team B wins, the Salvage for Team B is 9 and the discard for Team A is 21.

Is this correct or am I missing something?

I thought it was
Team A wins, salvages 3 cards and B discards 21
Team B wins, salvages 9 cards, A discards 27
Altough your thing makes more sense.

[ddevans96]

Jocko is correct. Read straight across the rows.

[bripod]

Jocko is correct. Read straight across the rows.

Well that doesn't make much sense... You're penalizing Team A for picking Honor in both situations?
and Team B is getting more Salvage or Less Discard?
WTF kinda logic is that? The only disadvantage for choosing Betray is getting beat by another Betray team...

it should be a +/- , -/+ situation... NOT -/- , +/+

[bogtro]

Jocko is correct. Read straight across the rows.

Well that doesn't make much sense... You're penalizing Team A for picking Honor in both situations?
and Team B is getting more Salvage or Less Discard?
WTF kinda logic is that? The only disadvantage for choosing Betray is getting beat by another Betray team...

it should be a +/- , -/+ situation... NOT -/- , +/+

If you choose Honor, you will win 3/6 salvage or lose 24/27 discard.
If you choose Betray, you will win 0/9 salvage or lose 21/30 discard.

I don't see the difference.

[DrunkDestroyer]

The idea of Prisoner's Dilemma has always been this.

An individual will always be better off Betraying. Of course, if all individuals think this, they will end up worse off, (although better than if they had chosen to Honor while the other chose to Betray)

Because of that, the most likely occurence is for both to Betray, which will happen in almost all occasions. (If either team chooses to honour, they will be ridiculously worse off here).


There will be no situation where it is better to Honor for an individual. However, two Honors is better than two Betrayals, which benefits both teams.


If there has ever been an alliance card, its this one. I personally would prefer two Honors over two Betrayals, but that runs a huge risk, and it isn't always worth it to run it.

[bripod]

An individual will always be better off Betraying. Of course, if all individuals think this, they will end up worse off, (although better than if they had chosen to Honor while the other chose to Betray)

Because of that, the most likely occurence is for both to Betray, which will happen in almost all occasions. (If either team chooses to honour, they will be ridiculously worse off here).

I guess that's my point... If things were as I had stated above, then players wouldn't be so hesitant to choose Honor... 

you'd still get those greedy ones who saw the 9 card salvage and were tempted, but not EVERYBODY would be playing Betray...

[RootRanger]

There will be no situation where it is better to Honor for an individual.

Well, this event card isn't like a usual Prisoner's Dilemma.
If your opponent Betrays, it is better to choose Honor.
In this case, the team that Honored has a 3-card salvage or 27-card discard.
But if they betray instead, they have a 0-card salvage and 30-card discard.

[bripod]

If your opponent Betrays, it is better to choose Honor.
In this case, the team that Honored has a 3-card salvage or 27-card discard.
But if you betray instead, you have a 0-card salvage or 30-card discard.

I think that might be a little more in line with your thoughts...

but Betray vs Honor means More Salvage or Less Discard... where's the reason in that? it's a win/win...

I will not address Honor/Honor or Betrayal/Betrayal matches as I feel the odds are justified, but in the case of opposing factions there is something not quite right...

As it stands right now...
Honor vs Betrayal- Honor wins = less than normal Salvage, Honor looses = greater than normal Discard. ( -/- )
Betrayal wins = greater than normal Salvage, Betrayal looses = less than normal Discard ( +/+ )

Where as what I was orig thinking...
Honor vs Betrayal - Honor wins = less than normal Salvage, Honor looses = less than normal Discard ( -/+ )
Betrayal wins = greater than normal Salvage, greater than Normal Discard ( +/- )