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Re: War #4 - Final Stand https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34709.msg437681#msg437681
« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2011, 10:22:52 pm »
Quote from: Jappert link=topic=http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34709.msg467746#msg467746 date=1323641537
Quote from: deuce22 link=topic=http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34709.msg467740#msg467740 date=1323641240
So, why does :fire have to play an extra round instead of :earth or :gravity?

just curious
Randomized I guess?

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Re: War #4 - Final Stand https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34709.msg437691#msg437691
« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2011, 10:49:38 pm »
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Expected.
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Re: War #4 - Final Stand https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34709.msg437693#msg437693
« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2011, 10:53:33 pm »
Mind explaining how?
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Re: War #4 - Final Stand https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34709.msg437698#msg437698
« Reply #15 on: December 11, 2011, 11:06:48 pm »
Quote from: ddevans96 link=topic=http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34709.msg467774#msg467774 date=1323644013
Mind explaining how?
Exclude 1 of 9, death (seems random).
Then is 1-5 1-6 2-7 4-8 (from actual ranking's standing). This seems to lack in randomness instead.

Oh, and as Malebolgias' saying in chat, the placement of the Lt seems intentional. :D

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Re: War #4 - Final Stand https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34709.msg437702#msg437702
« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2011, 11:15:49 pm »
Quote from: ddevans96 link=topic=http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34709.msg467774#msg467774 date=1323644013
Mind explaining how?
If you asked me, I don't know how.

I just know why I said it, just read the other posts before mine. Especially those with keywords: again (which is a word for repeat), haunt (which is also a word for repeat).
It is true, measuring randomness requires a bigger sample, but 3 in a row at these odds are close enough to state, something isn't random here.

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Re: War #4 - Final Stand https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34709.msg437704#msg437704
« Reply #17 on: December 11, 2011, 11:17:26 pm »
Impossible =/= unlikely.

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Re: War #4 - Final Stand https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34709.msg437705#msg437705
« Reply #18 on: December 11, 2011, 11:19:05 pm »
Really sucks missing this because of a horrible Round 8, some play mistakes and matching up against the only deck we couldn't possibly beat in Round 9.
I hope you're all glad we crushed Entropy's Discord/EQ deck and took Time's Poisondial on us though :>

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Re: War #4 - Final Stand https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34709.msg437707#msg437707
« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2011, 11:20:51 pm »
Quote from: annamall link=topic=http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34709.msg467744#msg467744 date=1323641475
That immortal mistake comes to haunt earth till the end apparently....
Quote from: Onizuka link=topic=http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34709.msg467747#msg467747 date=1323641563
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Quote from: CCCombobreaker link=topic=http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34709.msg467758#msg467758 date=1323642149
Really?  Really? 
Quote from: Sevs link=topic=http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34709.msg467750#msg467750 date=1323641667
Really
Anyone but me feel like going through the rounds and finding out exactly what the chances were of all these  :darkness v :earth matches occurring?
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Re: War #4 - Final Stand https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34709.msg437709#msg437709
« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2011, 11:28:48 pm »
Very good setup to end this war #4.  I'm glad the rankings shook down to this 'almost' general vs. general smash-out.  Each team can setup to poise for the next round if they win (with as much flexibility as possible, this late) and we don't have to wait and see if some crazy event shakes things up more. 

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Re: War #4 - Final Stand https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34709.msg437720#msg437720
« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2011, 12:01:09 am »
It is theoretically possible for the finals to be Light vs Light :p

This is definitely an interesting event card; good job to the organizers for creating an imaginative final event card.  I would have liked to see the 'convert cards to any card of your element' for the final round; this would prevent the 'everyone knows everyone else's vaults and match winners are virtually predetermined' problem, but I suppose it also wouldn't be fair to teams who managed their vaults better than teams who didn't.

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Re: War #4 - Final Stand https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34709.msg437768#msg437768
« Reply #22 on: December 12, 2011, 02:39:53 am »
So there is 6 card salvage this round?  Decks may only be altered round to round not in between matches? 
Sorry just a little confused  :-\

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Re: War #4 - Final Stand https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34709.msg437808#msg437808
« Reply #23 on: December 12, 2011, 03:57:18 am »
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Only Light has to use the dividing vault thingy, right?
Right

Quote from: deuce22 link=topic=http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34709.msg467740#msg467740 date=1323641240
So, why does :fire have to play an extra round instead of :earth or :gravity?

just curious
Fire, Life, Light, and Earth have had byes so far.  The rules state "No team may have a 2nd bye unless all other active teams have had at least 1 bye."

Quote from: Avenger link=topic=http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34709.msg467772#msg467772 date=1323643778
Btw, it is impossible this seeding was random.
Apart from the first match (as explained above), all of this and every other round was random.  I have been accused of repeating matchups, creating "interesting" matchups, and setting matchups to negatively impact a team.  The truth is this: I intentionally avoid looking at matchups before I copypasta them in the round thread.  If two teams have faced each other frequently, it is coincidental.  If you want a more complex seeding system please say so in the Feedback thread (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,31674.0.html).

Quote from: MatrimKK link=topic=http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34709.msg467851#msg467851 date=1323657593
So there is 6 card salvage this round?  Decks may only be altered round to round not in between matches? 
6 card salvage per opponent bested.  Yes, decks may be altered round to round but not in-between matches.

 

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