War #4 - Feedback

[the dictator]

And, most of the complaints weren't really about the actual lenght of the war, but more about how it dragged on and on. The last few rounds were fought by very few people and some event cards pushed the end even further, making everyone just wait for it to finally end. By round 9, only 24 people were left. Let's say every round a bit less than 50% of the players gets knocked out, that would result in: 24->14->8->4->2->winner.
That would have ended the whole thing in round 14. That is a difference of 2 rounds, but instead almost every event card did something to prolong the thing: more cards, less discarding, more salvaging. Hyperdrive was the only exception (and the event less one).

Well, what I was trying to say, it wasn't the lenght in general, but more the fact that is just dragged on. Team water was out by round 6, which meant we sat there 10 rounds waiting for it to end, and in the end the event cards were just like: Screw you, war won't end soon, we are going to prolong it.
I don't mind the war ending with just a few epic battles, but, this was just too much.

Reading this again, it seems a bit redundant, but well, I don't know how to say it otherwise (and well, it is exactly like the last event cards felt: not unique, and the round were just repeating).

[TheonlyrealBeef]

Some feedback on event cards:
practically every event card this war needed a pm from the general, it would be nice if this could simply be put on the secret section or something, this way even if the general forgets/doesn't act there is some team decision about the event card. An inactive general for that round should not lead to an auto lost round, possible leading to the demise of the entire team.
This is clearly necessary since basically no round has gone by without at least one team not submitting their choices. And if the entire team fails to post anything, well then they kind of deserve it :p

[Higurashi]

Yeah, they can look in the sections for confirmation and give a penalty to the team. We're supposed to PM to reduce their workload after all, and even if a PM isn't sent due to a page not loading while sending other PM's after hosting a tourney or whatever, the team could've done it earlier. *points to self* 

[mrpaper]

One simple solution to help that would be warmasters sending pm or writing in team secion that didnt sent they're choice 1h  (or maybe 12h?) before deadline to avoid drama.

[Higurashi]

I'm afraid that would work against the purpose of PM's to begin with: to reduce workload for WM's.

[mrpaper]

yeas and no... it's a bit more work before, but saves drama and lots of work after.  Then again, maybe the easiest way to do that is avoid events where we need to send pm, or rework some of em to make pm not necessary.

[UTAlan]

Maybe a place on the Vault Spreadsheet to put Event Card decisions?

[Higurashi]

That feels more natural than just secret sections, yeah. Only concern is if WM's go through Vaults every Round, or if it would increase work.

[Sevs]

Maybe it is just from the results today but there either needs to be a sub penalty or not. A player should not be able to sub a match because they don't have cards. There have been various examples from previous wars that force relics to be used in place. In this case Time was able to use 4 time nymphs that dragond does not have. I am not saying we should have won. it wasnt exactly the most favorable matchup, but there should be some rule in place to prevent free subbing to gain an advantage.

Also should point out the no salvage thing isn't that great of a thing to implement this far in war. It reduces any sort of new deck creation.

[RootRanger]

I disagree. People should not be penalized because they are not lucky enough to have the cards they need for the deck they've been given. Bad luck at the oracle shouldn't cause people to lose cards in war. That would just make war involve even more luck. Or, is that what you want?

[UTAlan]

If you take Nymphs in your vault, you are risking the possibility that your players won't have them. If that's a risk you are willing to take, so be it. Most teams don't, but yes, you should be penalized if your players don't have the cards needed to play their deck.

[mrpaper]

I would go further.. Why do I take 10-15 mins at the beginning of every war to submit the cards I have... this part would be useless if anything could be use by whoever has it.  One of the reasons you bid high (or low) on people is the amount of cards and electrums they have.. otherwise it would mean time had an advantage on bidding low