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Re: War #3 - Voices of the Fallen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26881.msg342006#msg342006
« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2011, 01:11:14 pm »
Some of you could find my post rude, but this is exactly the kind of war I wanted to avoid. I will continue to promote high standards of playing.
Some teams got destroyed by their own inactivity. Some others accumulated so many mistakes in their vault that they literally got a crushing penalty. My team did a terrible job this war, but we keep our errors to a minimum. That alone got us so far. I wish that next war we will have 13 teams full of active people capable of flawless playing.
The problem is: who knew that so many would quit the event so early.
The problem is not just the quitting people. We had a quitter, true, and Amilir would have been a precious asset to our team, but the mistakes in our Vault management were mostly due to bad communication and lack of cooperation. For instance, one time we had a penalty for totally not updating the Vault: while the Vault Organizer's lack of partecipation is certainly to be blamed, that would have not been if any of us stood up to the job. I know I didn't even bother to check it, thinking the Vault Organizer would have done that already, and got home with a 54 cards penalty pending upon us all. Let this be a warning to future teams.
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Re: War #3 - Voices of the Fallen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26881.msg342012#msg342012
« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2011, 01:19:49 pm »
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Re: War #3 - Voices of the Fallen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26881.msg342760#msg342760
« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2011, 07:18:49 pm »
:gravity
1. Strong starting morality, good.
2. Good pre-war team communication etc., good.
3. Horrible starting record for War, bad.
4. More bad records, bad.
5. GG and jmdt leaving, bad.
6. Lower morality, less communication and participation, terrible.
7. A number of vault mistakes, meh.

Stuff just went downhill pretty much.
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Re: War #3 - Voices of the Fallen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26881.msg343321#msg343321
« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2011, 05:41:44 pm »
I just say one thing.  :life was victim of a bad audit by Kael Hate.
He said:
Round 3 Decks
Edit after the Deadline Apr 26 2.00pm
« Last Edit: April 26, 2011, 06:17:06 PM by wizelsnarf »
Penalty 12 cards

Round 4 decks
Edited after Deadline May 03 2.00pm
« Last Edit: May 10, 2011, 04:21:24 AM by wizelsnarf »
Penalty 12 cards

Why wize would edit the decks 7 days after the deadline? I looked all decks used on these games and they are all the same. There is a sheet on the same post and for sure wize edit that sheet. But not the decks, so why the penalties?
I don´t believe on this audit, it´s not realible.
We were expelled unfair.

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Re: War #3 - Voices of the Fallen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26881.msg343327#msg343327
« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2011, 05:52:21 pm »
Firstly, keep comments like this private.
Secondly, after the deadline, you are not supposed to touch the post at all. There is no history of previous edits, so you cannot even prove that the post didn't change.
I'd say that Kael is very reliable in finding errors.

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Re: War #3 - Voices of the Fallen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26881.msg343338#msg343338
« Reply #17 on: May 30, 2011, 06:08:51 pm »
Yeah it really sucks to be expelled this way but as a General you need to strictly adhere to the rules and one of them is to NOT edit the deck post after the deadline has passed. It may seem unfair but as a Warmaster you have to make unfavorable rulings at times to stay consistent. Also everyone knows how strict Kael is so honestly you can't really rail against this ruling.

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Re: War #3 - Voices of the Fallen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26881.msg343341#msg343341
« Reply #18 on: May 30, 2011, 06:09:59 pm »
I just say one thing.  :life was victim of a bad audit by Kael Hate.
He said:
Round 3 Decks
Edit after the Deadline Apr 26 2.00pm
« Last Edit: April 26, 2011, 06:17:06 PM by wizelsnarf »
Penalty 12 cards

Round 4 decks
Edited after Deadline May 03 2.00pm
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Penalty 12 cards

Why wize would edit the decks 7 days after the deadline? I looked all decks used on these games and they are all the same. There is a sheet on the same post and for sure wize edit that sheet. But not the decks, so why the penalties?
I don´t believe on this audit, it´s not realible.
We were expelled unfair.
You got a 120 cards penalty, I don't think there was much else to do for you.
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Re: War #3 - Voices of the Fallen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26881.msg343346#msg343346
« Reply #19 on: May 30, 2011, 06:17:43 pm »
I just say one thing.  :life was victim of a bad audit by Kael Hate.
He said:
Round 3 Decks
Edit after the Deadline Apr 26 2.00pm
« Last Edit: April 26, 2011, 06:17:06 PM by wizelsnarf »
Penalty 12 cards

Round 4 decks
Edited after Deadline May 03 2.00pm
« Last Edit: May 10, 2011, 04:21:24 AM by wizelsnarf »
Penalty 12 cards

Why wize would edit the decks 7 days after the deadline? I looked all decks used on these games and they are all the same. There is a sheet on the same post and for sure wize edit that sheet. But not the decks, so why the penalties?
I don´t believe on this audit, it´s not realible.
We were expelled unfair.
You got a 120 cards penalty, I don't think there was much else to do for you.
But the thing is we could have a -little- chance to survive.
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Re: War #3 - Voices of the Fallen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26881.msg343350#msg343350
« Reply #20 on: May 30, 2011, 06:20:58 pm »
I'll give a hint against deck-edits, just lock the thread when editing it is no longer allowed :3
Some fails are a bit weird for me to understand either way, but I don't mind. Not as long as Kael ensures teams breaking rules get what they should :)

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Re: War #3 - Voices of the Fallen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26881.msg343352#msg343352
« Reply #21 on: May 30, 2011, 06:24:10 pm »
I'll give a hint against deck-edits, just lock the thread when editing it is no longer allowed :3
Some fails are a bit weird for me to understand either way, but I don't mind. Not as long as Kael ensures teams breaking rules get what they should :)
We all know this is true, but I think edunavas wanted a reason for the bans =)
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Re: War #3 - Voices of the Fallen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26881.msg343356#msg343356
« Reply #22 on: May 30, 2011, 06:28:43 pm »
Yeah it really sucks to be expelled this way but as a General you need to strictly adhere to the rules and one of them is to NOT edit the deck post after the deadline has passed. It may seem unfair but as a Warmaster you have to make unfavorable rulings at times to stay consistent. Also everyone knows how strict Kael is so honestly you can't really rail against this ruling.
Also because the ruling itself is the best possible ruling for this kind of event. Any other ruling would allow for cheating.
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Re: War #3 - Voices of the Fallen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26881.msg343384#msg343384
« Reply #23 on: May 30, 2011, 07:11:27 pm »
Well, I just made a test. I modified my previous post without changing anything. It still counts as a modification and updates the timer. Good to know.

 

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