*Author

Offline Manuel

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1676
  • Country: it
  • Reputation Power: 23
  • Manuel is a Mummy waiting to discover the path to glory.Manuel is a Mummy waiting to discover the path to glory.Manuel is a Mummy waiting to discover the path to glory.Manuel is a Mummy waiting to discover the path to glory.
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 15th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 14th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 13th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 12th Birthday CakeWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Tournament Winner12th Trials - Master of AirSlice of Elements 9th Birthday CakeBrawl #7 Winner - Green NightWeekly Tournament WinnerWar #11 Winner - Team LifeCard Design Competition - Help Wanted WinnerWeekly Tournament WinnerCard Competition - ChampionSlice of Elements 8th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 7th Birthday CakeWeekly Tournament Winner
Re: War #12 - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66456.msg1283082#msg1283082
« Reply #24 on: December 07, 2018, 05:25:53 am »
from august 29 for picking wms to october 5 for choosing new gens to november 5 for picking them
2 days for find a new auction system ignoring all the holes in the rules

not only u ruined war for me with a shitty blind auction, u also let me ruin the war for another 3 players, good job

Offline worldwideweb3

  • Master of Air
  • *
  • Posts: 3415
  • Country: gb
  • Reputation Power: 63
  • worldwideweb3 shines with the light of the Morning Glory!worldwideweb3 shines with the light of the Morning Glory!worldwideweb3 shines with the light of the Morning Glory!worldwideweb3 shines with the light of the Morning Glory!worldwideweb3 shines with the light of the Morning Glory!worldwideweb3 shines with the light of the Morning Glory!worldwideweb3 shines with the light of the Morning Glory!worldwideweb3 shines with the light of the Morning Glory!worldwideweb3 shines with the light of the Morning Glory!worldwideweb3 shines with the light of the Morning Glory!worldwideweb3 shines with the light of the Morning Glory!worldwideweb3 shines with the light of the Morning Glory!
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 15th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 12th Birthday CakeWeekly Tournament Winner (2021.01.03.)Weekly Tournament Winner (2020.11.22.)14th Trials - Master of AirWeekly Tournament Winner (2020.06.28.)Weekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Tournament Winner (2020.05.03.)Elements League 3/2019 2nd PlaceSlice of Elements 10th Birthday CakeElements League 3/2018 1st PlaceWinner of Team PvP #812th Trials - Master of AetherElements: Academy WinnerWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Tournament WinnerElements League 2/2017 3rd PlaceWinner of Draft #4 - PvP Event11th Trials - Master of FireBattle League 1/2017 1st PlaceWeekly Tournament WinnerBattle League and Championship League 3/2016 1st PlaceChampionship League 2/2016 1st Place10th Trials - Master of GravityChampionship League 1/2016 2nd PlaceWeekly Tournament WinnerChampionship League 3/2015 3rd PlaceWeekly Tournament WinnerChampionship League 1/2015 1st PlaceWar #8 Winner - Team FireBattle League 2/2014 2nd Place
Re: War #12 - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66456.msg1283085#msg1283085
« Reply #25 on: December 07, 2018, 05:44:32 am »
from august 29 for picking wms to october 5 for choosing new gens to november 5 for picking them
2 days for find a new auction system ignoring all the holes in the rules

not only u ruined war for me with a shitty blind auction, u also let me ruin the war for another 3 players, good job

Um, it was your decision to go that high on bids? If you had looked at previous wars and thought about it, you'd have realised no one is going to be bidding that high
First player to become master of 3 different elements.
WC 2016 - #2. WC 2015 - #3 Devil's gate, Trinity, War #10, 12 lives - #2.
Avvy by rob77dp
Rightful winner of war #14 - Team Air

Offline kaempfer13

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2099
  • Country: de
  • Reputation Power: 44
  • kaempfer13 soars like the Phoenix, unable to be repressed.kaempfer13 soars like the Phoenix, unable to be repressed.kaempfer13 soars like the Phoenix, unable to be repressed.kaempfer13 soars like the Phoenix, unable to be repressed.kaempfer13 soars like the Phoenix, unable to be repressed.kaempfer13 soars like the Phoenix, unable to be repressed.kaempfer13 soars like the Phoenix, unable to be repressed.kaempfer13 soars like the Phoenix, unable to be repressed.
  • Awards: There Can Only Be One - 2020 WinnerSlice of Elements 11th Birthday CakeOEtG Rags to Riches WinnerWeekly Tournament WinnerElements League 3/2018 2nd PlaceWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Tournament WinnerThere Can Be Only One - 2018 WinnerWeekly Tournament Winner12th Trials - Master of TimeSlice of Elements 9th Birthday CakeWeekly Tournament WinnerElements League 2/2017 2nd PlaceWeekly Tournament WinnerWinner of Draft #4 - PvP EventSlice of Elements 8th Birthday CakeWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Tournament WinnerDeckbuilding Competition: It's Greek to MeWeekly Tournament Winner
Re: War #12 - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66456.msg1283086#msg1283086
« Reply #26 on: December 07, 2018, 05:49:25 am »
Can you please fix market prices? Even now the ones in the table by element and first table dont match up.  Its the reason why I didnt give feedback as I thought this would be fixed a month ago. i still dont know how much Sofree actually costs now.
:gravity War 10
:death and tied for master of STANDIN War 11
Master of :time War 12

Offline Manuel

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1676
  • Country: it
  • Reputation Power: 23
  • Manuel is a Mummy waiting to discover the path to glory.Manuel is a Mummy waiting to discover the path to glory.Manuel is a Mummy waiting to discover the path to glory.Manuel is a Mummy waiting to discover the path to glory.
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 15th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 14th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 13th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 12th Birthday CakeWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Tournament Winner12th Trials - Master of AirSlice of Elements 9th Birthday CakeBrawl #7 Winner - Green NightWeekly Tournament WinnerWar #11 Winner - Team LifeCard Design Competition - Help Wanted WinnerWeekly Tournament WinnerCard Competition - ChampionSlice of Elements 8th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 7th Birthday CakeWeekly Tournament Winner
Re: War #12 - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66456.msg1283087#msg1283087
« Reply #27 on: December 07, 2018, 06:14:15 am »
from august 29 for picking wms to october 5 for choosing new gens to november 5 for picking them
2 days for find a new auction system ignoring all the holes in the rules

not only u ruined war for me with a shitty blind auction, u also let me ruin the war for another 3 players, good job

Um, it was your decision to go that high on bids? If you had looked at previous wars and thought about it, you'd have realised no one is going to be bidding that high

if the system used and the player base was totally different why should i look at past wars?

"my decision" that was blindly mixed with the decisions of another 11 players, where is my decision? how can i guess what other 11 will bid?

Offline Spielkind

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1566
  • Country: de
  • Reputation Power: 20
  • Spielkind is a Mummy waiting to discover the path to glory.Spielkind is a Mummy waiting to discover the path to glory.Spielkind is a Mummy waiting to discover the path to glory.Spielkind is a Mummy waiting to discover the path to glory.
  • Mess with the best - die like the rest!
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 9th Birthday CakeWeekly Tournament WinnerWar #11 Winner - Team LifeSlice of Elements 8th Birthday CakeWeekly Tournament WinnerSlice of Elements 7th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 6th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 5th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 4th Birthday CakeWeekly Tournament Winner
Re: War #12 - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66456.msg1283090#msg1283090
« Reply #28 on: December 07, 2018, 09:41:58 am »
Would suggest an announcement topic or roundhouse mail for the coming wars to alert lazy people Auction has started...  :'(
(\__/)
(='.'=) This is Bunny. Bunny rules the Earth.
(")_(") Copy and Paste Bunny to show your appreciation!

Offline Submachine

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4987
  • Country: gb
  • Reputation Power: 95
  • Submachine is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.Submachine is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.Submachine is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.Submachine is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.Submachine is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.Submachine is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.Submachine is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.Submachine is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.Submachine is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.Submachine is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.Submachine is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.Submachine is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.Submachine is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.Submachine is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.Submachine is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.
  • Who needs a Sub?
  • Awards: Weekly Tournament Winner (2020.09.27.)Weekly Tournament WinnerSlice of Elements 10th Birthday CakeWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Tournament WinnerSlice of Elements 7th Birthday CakeWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Design July 2015 - GoldSlice of Elements 5th Birthday CakeBattle League 3/2013 3rd PlaceWeekly Tournament Winner
Re: War #12 - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66456.msg1283091#msg1283091
« Reply #29 on: December 07, 2018, 11:45:14 am »
Theoretically, how long would War be if we added Triple Elimination rules on top of the existing rules?

What do you even mean by that? Each card has 3 'lives' until its removed from vault? After theoretical elimination a new vault can be built? Anyway its too f-ing long.
No, I meant that a team is instantly eliminated after the third round when they have more losses than wins. It’s a theoretical question though, not a suggestion.
And we keep driving into the night
It's a late goodbye, such a late goodbye...

~ Platinum Quest ~

Online Wyand

  • Tournament Organizer
  • *****
  • ******
  • Posts: 2282
  • Country: hu
  • Reputation Power: 37
  • Wyand is a Gargoyle, dangerous and everlasting.Wyand is a Gargoyle, dangerous and everlasting.Wyand is a Gargoyle, dangerous and everlasting.Wyand is a Gargoyle, dangerous and everlasting.Wyand is a Gargoyle, dangerous and everlasting.Wyand is a Gargoyle, dangerous and everlasting.Wyand is a Gargoyle, dangerous and everlasting.
  • Not So Young Elemental
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 15th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 14th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 13th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 12th Birthday CakeWeekly Tournament Winner (2020.12.27.)Weekly Tournament Winner (2020.11.15.)Weekly Tournament Winner (2020.10.11.)Weekly Tournament Winner (2020.10.04.)Weekly Tournament Winner (2020.09.14.)Weekly Tournament Winner (2020.09.05.)Slice of Elements 11th Birthday CakeWeekly Tournament Winner 2020.1.1913th Trials - Master of EntropyWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Tournament WinnerElements League 2/2019 3rd PlaceWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Tournament WinnerSlice of Elements 10th Birthday CakeWeekly Tournament WinnerArt Competition - Winter Paint With Elements WinnerTeam Deckbuilding/Writing Competition - A Matter of Logistics WinnerArt Competition - Definitely A Card Design CompetitionSlice of Elements 9th Birthday CakeWeekly Tournament Winner
Re: War #12 - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66456.msg1283092#msg1283092
« Reply #30 on: December 07, 2018, 11:50:30 am »
I must say I understand Manuel, since I'm kinda walking in the same shoes. Wasn't expecting draft starting immediately
on a workday and lasts only for 48 hours. Which kinda meant that I didn't have enough time to factor in everything.
So I ended up having the 2nd most expensive team. This is kinda tough. This can be decisive, and while I admit that
bidding too high is my mistake it is really strange that something which can have such a great impact on War was
shoe-horned into a 48 hours blind event on weekdays.
<---- A nice purple pie, shiny cups and a trio of cakes on a red platter, a box of candies and an ice cream cone on chocolate! :) Bon appétit!

"It's hard to detect good luck - it looks so much like something you've earned." - Frank A. Clark

Online Wyand

  • Tournament Organizer
  • *****
  • ******
  • Posts: 2282
  • Country: hu
  • Reputation Power: 37
  • Wyand is a Gargoyle, dangerous and everlasting.Wyand is a Gargoyle, dangerous and everlasting.Wyand is a Gargoyle, dangerous and everlasting.Wyand is a Gargoyle, dangerous and everlasting.Wyand is a Gargoyle, dangerous and everlasting.Wyand is a Gargoyle, dangerous and everlasting.Wyand is a Gargoyle, dangerous and everlasting.
  • Not So Young Elemental
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 15th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 14th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 13th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 12th Birthday CakeWeekly Tournament Winner (2020.12.27.)Weekly Tournament Winner (2020.11.15.)Weekly Tournament Winner (2020.10.11.)Weekly Tournament Winner (2020.10.04.)Weekly Tournament Winner (2020.09.14.)Weekly Tournament Winner (2020.09.05.)Slice of Elements 11th Birthday CakeWeekly Tournament Winner 2020.1.1913th Trials - Master of EntropyWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Tournament WinnerElements League 2/2019 3rd PlaceWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Tournament WinnerSlice of Elements 10th Birthday CakeWeekly Tournament WinnerArt Competition - Winter Paint With Elements WinnerTeam Deckbuilding/Writing Competition - A Matter of Logistics WinnerArt Competition - Definitely A Card Design CompetitionSlice of Elements 9th Birthday CakeWeekly Tournament Winner
Re: War #12 - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66456.msg1283093#msg1283093
« Reply #31 on: December 07, 2018, 12:07:12 pm »
Too bad we didn't have a guessing competition for drafts, I correctly guessed the team of 9 players (made predictions for ~15 players).
<---- A nice purple pie, shiny cups and a trio of cakes on a red platter, a box of candies and an ice cream cone on chocolate! :) Bon appétit!

"It's hard to detect good luck - it looks so much like something you've earned." - Frank A. Clark

Offline Manuel

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1676
  • Country: it
  • Reputation Power: 23
  • Manuel is a Mummy waiting to discover the path to glory.Manuel is a Mummy waiting to discover the path to glory.Manuel is a Mummy waiting to discover the path to glory.Manuel is a Mummy waiting to discover the path to glory.
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 15th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 14th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 13th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 12th Birthday CakeWeekly Tournament WinnerWeekly Tournament Winner12th Trials - Master of AirSlice of Elements 9th Birthday CakeBrawl #7 Winner - Green NightWeekly Tournament WinnerWar #11 Winner - Team LifeCard Design Competition - Help Wanted WinnerWeekly Tournament WinnerCard Competition - ChampionSlice of Elements 8th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 7th Birthday CakeWeekly Tournament Winner
Re: War #12 - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66456.msg1283099#msg1283099
« Reply #32 on: December 07, 2018, 05:57:15 pm »
from september 16 to december 5 and two polls for using a blind auction

i am supposed to bid on players
players in auction ignoring the rules and banning 6/11 elements
players in auction pretend to play war without having time/motivation/will to play
i bid on all the players i can buy and hopefully won't left war after 2 rounds
if i don't bid enough i risk to get a penalization
i am screwed because i actually tried to build a team

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Offline CCCombobreaker

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1028
  • Country: us
  • Reputation Power: 16
  • CCCombobreaker is a Blue Crawler starting to think about his first run.CCCombobreaker is a Blue Crawler starting to think about his first run.CCCombobreaker is a Blue Crawler starting to think about his first run.
  • Sometimes still here...
  • Awards: Weekly Tournament WinnerScreenshot #3 Competition WinnerWeekly Tournament Winner
Re: War #12 - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66456.msg1283102#msg1283102
« Reply #33 on: December 07, 2018, 07:50:26 pm »
It seems (from the General's perspective) that this blind auction/draft system was suboptimal.  I have a somewhat simple suggestion that could improve this system for future wars (if it isn't completely overhauled).

Current System: (Highest Bid General with Open Roster Spot) gets (Player X) for (Highest Bid on Player X made by General with an Open Roster Spot).
Proposed change (Highest Bid General with Open Roster Spot) gets (Player X) for (2nd Highest Bid on Player X made by a General with an Open Roster Spot)+1.

For example:
InsignificantWeaboo really wants DoubleCapitals on his team.  In a blind auction that means he needs to bid pretty high to have confidence he will get DoubleCapitals.  To make sure, InsignificantWeaboo bids the max 7500.  However, other generals do not rank DoubleCapitals as highly, and the next highest bid by a General with an open roster spot is 1002 by ShockCannon.  Because InsignificantWeaboo bid the most on DoubleCapitals, he receives DoubleCapitals onto his team, but because the next highest bid was 1002, it only costs InsignificantWeaboo 1003 points (not 7500).

This allows the general that bids the most on a player to get that player, but the cost is determined at a "closer to market" rate rather than a blind guess by a single general.

Generals who prioritize a player or two would get them at whatever other Generals essentially valued those players at.  If two generals really want a player, that player will cost much more, but in many cases this helps alleviate the price hike that comes from the blind nature of the auction.

I understand there is a certain amount of strategy to be employed in the current blind auction system, and some generals probably quite enjoy that.  This proposal changes the nature of such strategies, but I am certain it still leaves quite a lot of potential for strategic bidding.   
Deckbuilding mad scientist.  Come by and hang out in my stream!

Offline InsignificantWeeaboo

  • Newsletter Writer
  • *
  • ****
  • *
  • Posts: 798
  • Country: us
  • Reputation Power: 15
  • InsignificantWeeaboo is a Blue Crawler starting to think about his first run.InsignificantWeeaboo is a Blue Crawler starting to think about his first run.InsignificantWeeaboo is a Blue Crawler starting to think about his first run.
  • Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well.
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 10th Birthday CakeWriting Competition: Draw Seven WinnerWeekly Tournament WinnerCard Design Competition - The Oracle's New Year's Party WinnerWriting Competition: Haphazard Heroics WinnerDeckbuilding Competition - The Mastery Gauntlet WinnerWriting Competition: H.E.A.T. WinnerSlice of Elements 9th Birthday Cake
Re: War #12 - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66456.msg1283105#msg1283105
« Reply #34 on: December 07, 2018, 09:27:31 pm »
^ +1
O-oooooooooo AAAAE-A-A-I-A-U-JO-oooooooooooo AAE-O-A-A-U-U-A-E-eee-ee-eee AAAAE-A-E-I-E-A-JO-ooo-oo-oo-oo EEEEO-A-AAA-AAAA
Team :gravity Gen. (War #12)
Team :gravity Soldier (War #13)
Team :light Soldier (War #14)

Offline MasterWalks

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 559
  • Country: us
  • Reputation Power: 0
  • MasterWalks hides under a Cloak.
  • 12 year old mobile gamer
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 13th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 12th Birthday CakeWeekly Tournament Winner (2020.12.06.)Slice of Elements 11th Birthday CakeWar #13 Winner - Team DarknessSlice of Elements 10th Birthday CakeWriting Competition: The Elemental Cookbook - A Compendium and Comprehensive Compilation of Culinary Creations WinnerWeekly Tournament WinnerBronze DonorTeam Deckbuilding/Writing Competition - A Matter of Logistics Winner
Re: War #12 - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66456.msg1283106#msg1283106
« Reply #35 on: December 07, 2018, 10:14:40 pm »
I agree with CCCombobreaker on this, albeit i am not a general.

It makes more sense. The two elements with the highest bids  :entropy and  :air also have the most expensive market prices. These teams are at a severe disadvantage. I think it wouldnt be difficult to adjust the points to what CCC has stated to make this a more fair War.

Look at Light as well. One of the cheapest markets as well as the cheapest bids.

This is Outrageous! Its Unfair!
:gravity War 12
:darkness War 13
:fire War 14
Credit to Wyand for Profile Picture

 

anything
blarg: