War #12 - Planned Changes (Work In Progress) (Discussion)

[deuce22]

Draft is still best IMO. It just needs to be redone to determine the draft order for the whole draft instead of by rounds. I feel like the rounds were created to try and keep this part of the event lasting a few days, but quite frankly it just doesn’t make sense.

[ddevans96]

I also still prefer a draft system.

[deuce22]

I also still prefer a draft system.

I’m surprised by the number of people voting for an auction. It is just a terrible system that only works well when you have an abundance of players (several more than what are needed for the event). Plus it takes for freaking ever to finish.

[worldwideweb3]

i hate draft. If i want player A and B, and i make high bids on both in R1 draft, i'll only get one of them and may lose the other player to a Gen, even if that gen bid less than me. If draft is changed and if the highest bid for B is by me, then i get first dibs on him, regardless if i already have a player that round, then i wouldnt mind supporitng it.

[ddevans96]

i hate draft. If i want player A and B, and i make high bids on both in R1 draft, i'll only get one of them and may lose the other player to a Gen, even if that gen bid less than me. If draft is changed and if the highest bid for B is by me, then i get first dibs on him, regardless if i already have a player that round, then i wouldnt mind supporitng it.

That's essentially deuce's proposition, and I'd be in favor of it as well.

[deuce22]

i hate draft. If i want player A and B, and i make high bids on both in R1 draft, i'll only get one of them and may lose the other player to a Gen, even if that gen bid less than me. If draft is changed and if the highest bid for B is by me, then i get first dibs on him, regardless if i already have a player that round, then i wouldnt mind supporitng it.

That sort of draft is exactly what I’ve proposed multiple times in this thread and the S&F thread over the past year. It’s fair, strategic, alots appropriate value for all players, and it takes hardly any time.

The only reason auction is being considered right now is because the current draft rules make little sense. Just fix the draft rules and everything will be as it should... except WMs still haven’t nerfed monoair sofree or gotten rid of market prices. What’s the point in having a S&F thread if nothing is done about the big issues that plague this event repeatedly?

[Manuel]

i don't undestand what i should vote and i think same for other players, i only see an option for keep the draft as it this (12 pick/minibid / round) or make it even more useless with a day only draft
if i remember correctly every player pro-draft is also pro-reworking draft or the draft suggested by deuce, so what is the sense to add another option (the oneday draft) that nobody suggested?

[rob77dp]

Anything but an auction. I have a hard time believing there are any Generals out there in support of an auction. At least, not any General who has been a General before in a limited-player-base auction before. It is terrible. Terrible. I would support basically ANY kind of draft over an auction.

[shockcannon]

What about this. We do draft with 2 rounds, but generals bid for their draft position. Whoever bids the most gets to pick #1 and #13. Second-most bid gets to draft #2 and #14. This keeps going on. If there are over 24 applicants but under 36 then for the 3rd round generals can opt to pick or not pick up people.

If people think that having #1 and #13 is too good, then we could do a snake draft where whoever picks #1 also picks #24, while whoever picks #12 also picks #13. In this case, being the first pick isn't necessarily the best. As a result highest bidder would get to choose their draft position. For example, the highest bidding general gets to choose where between 1 and 12 they want to draft for the first round. They then draft according to the snake draft to determine where they draft for the second round.

I personally like one of these two options the best but anything works for me. Even auction would be fine with me but just offering some more draft options that haven't been considered yet.

[Blacksmith]

i hate draft. If i want player A and B, and i make high bids on both in R1 draft, i'll only get one of them and may lose the other player to a Gen, even if that gen bid less than me. If draft is changed and if the highest bid for B is by me, then i get first dibs on him, regardless if i already have a player that round, then i wouldnt mind supporitng it.

That sort of draft is exactly what I’ve proposed multiple times in this thread and the S&F thread over the past year. It’s fair, strategic, alots appropriate value for all players, and it takes hardly any time.

The only reason auction is being considered right now is because the current draft rules make little sense. Just fix the draft rules and everything will be as it should... except WMs still haven’t nerfed monoair sofree or gotten rid of market prices. What’s the point in having a S&F thread if nothing is done about the big issues that plague this event repeatedly?

+1

[iancudorinmarian]

At this point I'd take random teams over 1 month auction.

[worldwideweb3]

i hate draft. If i want player A and B, and i make high bids on both in R1 draft, i'll only get one of them and may lose the other player to a Gen, even if that gen bid less than me. If draft is changed and if the highest bid for B is by me, then i get first dibs on him, regardless if i already have a player that round, then i wouldnt mind supporitng it.

That sort of draft is exactly what I’ve proposed multiple times in this thread and the S&F thread over the past year. It’s fair, strategic, alots appropriate value for all players, and it takes hardly any time.

The only reason auction is being considered right now is because the current draft rules make little sense. Just fix the draft rules and everything will be as it should... except WMs still haven’t nerfed monoair sofree or gotten rid of market prices. What’s the point in having a S&F thread if nothing is done about the big issues that plague this event repeatedly?

@WMs would you consider this?