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Re: War #11 - Market Prices (WIP) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64673.msg1268094#msg1268094
« Reply #24 on: September 11, 2017, 03:26:19 pm »
On a serious note, SoP shouldn't be 300. It is comparable in strength to dims and fractal, maybe a bit stronger, but the key thing is that it is usable by ALL elements, which shouldn't put it so close to SoFree, which is only usable by air (properly) and maybe life. Imo it should be 250.

I don't understand why a card that is usable by all Elements should be cheaper than one that isn't. In fact, I think the same argument was used to justify the increased cost of Grabbows a War or two ago.

To put it another way, I don't know why a card that is mainly used by one Element should be made more expensive. Sure, if you want to hurt that Element in the market a little go ahead, but if that isn't the reason then why should it cost more?.

Not to mention that usable by all doesn't necessarily mean equally usable.

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« Reply #25 on: September 11, 2017, 03:37:53 pm »
lightning feels a tad expensive, compared to the other cc cards (especially considering aether has no cheap cards that it would actually use)
why is Nymphqueen more expensive then NT? it is harder to fit in, as its slower, especially when you need an offelement nymph first (or didnt even want to produce a queen) and its less usefull in vault because of fewer people having it.
SoFo feels a bit too expensive given how easy it is to counter, but when it works its without a doubt a powerhouse. shouldnt be less than 160, but 200 feels really expensive for a card that wasnt used by that many at all (though the mere threat of it it definitely helps gravy a lot).
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Re: War #11 - Market Prices (WIP) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64673.msg1268096#msg1268096
« Reply #26 on: September 11, 2017, 03:45:02 pm »
Woah woah, just noticed Ice Bolt is 85???
Surely shouldn't be more than 70?
Blue Crawler at 80 is also very very weird
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« Reply #27 on: September 11, 2017, 03:49:38 pm »
Woah woah, just noticed Ice Bolt is 85???
Surely shouldn't be more than 70?
Blue Crawler at 80 is also very very weird
I agree with Ice Bolt, but Blue Crawler doesn't deserve to be cheaper. 4 quanta 6/6 is preeeeety good.

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« Reply #28 on: September 11, 2017, 04:04:18 pm »
Yeah, after looking again, Blue crawler is probably right.

Going to do a full list so i don't just make a load of posts and sound really whiney. Will try to be objective.

- Chrysaora being 70 when it was 30 last war is a joke right? just because we used a bad creature well a lot last war doesn't make it a good creature. Was used mostly as filler, its usefulness was because it was cheap, putting its price up just ruins any chance of using it creatively. Should be 50.
- Ice bolt really looks off considering its actual usability, 60 should be fine.
- Sapp Charger is nuts at 120. it's good but wow. 95 imo.
- Graviton merc culd be 10 cheaper to line up with horned toad.
- Given how cheap the rest of light's vault is, guardian angel could be a tad more expensive
- SoBra and Ash eater should be 10 cheaper each.
- PU could be a little cheaper
- Damselfly should be 100 imo, Spark 40, photon 50
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Re: War #11 - Market Prices (WIP) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64673.msg1268114#msg1268114
« Reply #29 on: September 12, 2017, 01:47:10 pm »
On a serious note, SoP shouldn't be 300. It is comparable in strength to dims and fractal, maybe a bit stronger, but the key thing is that it is usable by ALL elements, which shouldn't put it so close to SoFree, which is only usable by air (properly) and maybe life. Imo it should be 250.

I don't understand why a card that is usable by all Elements should be cheaper than one that isn't. In fact, I think the same argument was used to justify the increased cost of Grabbows a War or two ago.

To put it another way, I don't know why a card that is mainly used by one Element should be made more expensive. Sure, if you want to hurt that Element in the market a little go ahead, but if that isn't the reason then why should it cost more?.

Not to mention that usable by all doesn't necessarily mean equally usable.

The reasoning for Market is to refresh the meta, as well as introduce a tentative balance between elements. The drastic changes are usually made with the idea of changing the meta in mind. SoP was a very dominant card last war, being used more times than several pillars/pends, dims, deflags or steals. The high price is our attempt to rein it in.

Of course, one should consider just how effective the market has been. I believe that after this war we will have enough data to give a definitive answer about the viability of market as we know it, and decide whether it has done enough to be worth the effort. Nova and Graboid are still some of the highest used cards despite having the highest costs, so perhaps market is flawed at the core?

why is Nymphqueen more expensive then NT? it is harder to fit in, as its slower, especially when you need an offelement nymph first (or didnt even want to produce a queen) and its less usefull in vault because of fewer people having it.

It's preferable that nymphs be overpriced rather than underpriced to maintain beginner friendliness of the event.

Now, some changes:

Dragonfly: 110 -> 100 (Price might have been based off my subjective view of the card, now is in line with the other best quanta generator in devourer)
Guardian Angel: 50 -> 60 (Previously had a massive buff, made buff normal-sized)
Shard of Focus: 200 -> 180
Ice bolt: 85 -> 70
Lightning: 170 -> 160 (A slight buff for aether)
PU: 90 -> 80 (A slight buff for aether)
Chrysaora: 70 -> 60 (It's overuse last war does demonstrate its potential, so keeping it higher than its power level for now)
Ash Eater: 50 -> 40 (more in line with weak bad creature like Antlion)
Spark: 50 -> 40 (Spark is interesting. Photon is not)
SoI: 80 -> 70 (Was very high before due to Physsion's views. It's not as powerful in a war setting)

SoB not touched since I believe it's at an appropriate spot for power level. Gravity hitters untouched because there's a reason they were priced like that.
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Re: War #11 - Market Prices (WIP) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64673.msg1268115#msg1268115
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« Reply #32 on: September 12, 2017, 05:25:19 pm »
On a serious note, SoP shouldn't be 300. It is comparable in strength to dims and fractal, maybe a bit stronger, but the key thing is that it is usable by ALL elements, which shouldn't put it so close to SoFree, which is only usable by air (properly) and maybe life. Imo it should be 250.

I don't understand why a card that is usable by all Elements should be cheaper than one that isn't. In fact, I think the same argument was used to justify the increased cost of Grabbows a War or two ago.

To put it another way, I don't know why a card that is mainly used by one Element should be made more expensive. Sure, if you want to hurt that Element in the market a little go ahead, but if that isn't the reason then why should it cost more?.

Not to mention that usable by all doesn't necessarily mean equally usable.

both cards (SoFree and SoP) are overpowered, but in different ways. SoFree gives air a significant advantage over most elements, which is why it's so expensive.

SoP is used by many elements and ended up powering very strong decks for many elements, similar to grabbow of old wars, but even stronger. Rightfully, the price of this card was significantly increased.


Given that SoFree is really only used by air, who would otherwise have 24 copies if they could (maybe not as is often only used by Gen or Lt), will get hit harder and likely have fewer copies in their starting vault compared to last war. Regardless, air will still have plenty of SoFree to be just as OP this war as last war, but their starting vault will be lower due to increased market prices. Air is still the favorite to win this war imo.

As for SoP, the market price increase will have a similar impact on water but to a lesser degree as the card will be much more salvageable. And it will have much less of an impact on non-water elements.

While the intention of market prices is to "refresh the meta", this is quite frankly false. The meta will essentially be the same, except maybe some elements pack 1 or 2 different decks to help counter annoying decks from last war.

If the goal of the new rules was to refresh the meta, there was really minimal changes overall to make any sort of impact IMO.

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« Reply #33 on: September 12, 2017, 05:31:16 pm »
honestly, kaempfer and I vouch for aether to have 3 cards reduced in price and deuce is still complaining :P

Serious note, I actually disagree that these market costs won't affect meta. Some gens will go all out to have a small vault of highest tier decks, some wont. Those that dn't may find new ways to counter old ideas. We certainly did last way, and hope to again. It depends on the gen, but it will either make a stron element's vault smaller, a weak element's vault bigger, or any element's vault more diverse. All good things for shaking up war meta.

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« Reply #34 on: September 12, 2017, 05:51:47 pm »
honestly, kaempfer and I vouch for aether to have 3 cards reduced in price and deuce is still complaining :P

Not really sure what you think I am complaining about...

I merely offered an explanation for a discussion on increased market prices, and my analysis of it's effect in relation to the warmaster's goal/intention of the price increase.

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Re: War #11 - Market Prices https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64673.msg1268124#msg1268124
« Reply #35 on: September 12, 2017, 05:56:14 pm »
I'm just teasing mate :)
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