Post by: mathman101 on August 30, 2016, 12:00:01 am
| WAR #10 Round 1 12 armies arrive at the glorious battlefield, each with thier weapons drawn and their shields up ready for a battle. Each army is led by a daring General and a multitude of loyal troops, each ready to lay their life on the line for what they fight for. 12 armies will enter the battlefield, but only 1 will leave at the end. | Read the War Rules (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/war/war-10-rules-62499/) Contact Warmasters News War begins! | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Deckbuilding Teams have to build decks for all players who are fighting during this round. All team members participate in the planning. Please do not post your decks in public or talk about them in chat.Duel phase has started All decks must be made ready before the timer goes to zero, after which, editing decks is strictly forbidden. Failure to have all of the decks ready will lead to a severe card penalty and/or automatic losses. It is highly recommended that all team members double-check their decks before the duels start. | Duels Duel phase starts when deckbuilding ends.Fighting ends! PM your opponent and try to find a suitable time. Time Zone Converter (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html) might be useful here. If you cannot find a time when you both are online, please contact Warmasters--mathman101 and Physsion--immediately. If the match does not happen, you both lose by default unless one of you is clearly more active and flexible. Duels are "best-of-five", you must use the deck and mark built during the previous phase, and you cannot make any changes to your deck or mark during the round. Please make sure to record your duels as shown in the Rules (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/war/war-9-rules-59201/#post_four): (Air Gen) KingKiller 3 - 1 (Water Lt) LordOwner (Air Sld) KingKiller 3 - 1 (Water Gen) LordOwner (Air Lt) KingKiller 3 - 1 (Water Sld) (Sub) LordOwner (SUB indicates that someone else played instead of LordOwner) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Event Card (http://i.imgur.com/yzknwl0.png) Soldiers may pay 5 cards if facing a General. Soldiers may pay 3 card if facing a Lieutenant or upgrade boost. Payed cards will be a discard modifier in Round 2 deckbuilding phase. | Battles --------------------------=--------------------------
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For this round:
Discards - 5 (from deck)
Salvage - 6
Post by: JonathanCrazyJ on August 30, 2016, 12:02:13 am
Must our opponent declare before the match, and we decide at that moment whether to pay or not?
Post by: TheonlyrealBeef on August 30, 2016, 12:20:17 am
Post by: mathman101 on August 30, 2016, 12:25:42 am
How will we know if we are facing an upgrade boost / Lt?
Must our opponent declare before the match, and we decide at that moment whether to pay or not?
You will find out if they are Lt/upgrade boost at the end of the deckbuilding phase/start of the duel phase. At this time is when the extra upgrades are added into the decks if you choose to pay for them.
For the event card: how are these upgrades distributed? Our opponents' deck is unknown to us as is the number of upgrades. Can we upgrade extra cards after deckbuilding ends: is an announcement made towards those choosing to use the event card as to how many cards they may upgrade in their deck? And do these upgrades still need to have at least 4 in element?
We suggest that you build your soldier decks as regular (8 upgrades), and then add in the extra upgrades at the start of the duel phase if you want to use the event card. Yes there will still need to be at least 4 in-element upgrades in your deck.
Post by: Ryli on August 30, 2016, 12:45:20 am
We suggest that you build your soldier decks as regular (8 upgrades), and then add in the extra upgrades at the start of the duel phase if you want to use the event card. Yes there will still need to be at least 4 in-element upgrades in your deck.
Some upgrades are significantly different and affect the way a deck works entirely. i.e Nova/Supernova, Photon/RoL, so a team might have wanted an entirely different deck had they known they'd have extra upgrades to face a Lt/someone using the +2 boost/both.
Post by: Aves on August 30, 2016, 12:51:05 am
Post by: mathman101 on August 30, 2016, 02:35:25 am
Are the upgrades from EC free, or are they locked in? In other words, can they be shifted around in the deck?
They are locked in, and no cannot be shifted freely within the deck.
Post by: Basman-1453 on August 30, 2016, 02:47:27 am
- Is Bribery a team action (meaning, one Bribe benefits the entire team) or individual action (meaning, you need to Bribe more than once if you need more than one player needing that extra upgrade)?
- Suppose Team Chroma Bribes for two of their goons that faces Team Underworld's General and Team Rainbow's non-General.
- If Team Rainbow ends up using Lieutenant/Upgrades against Team Chroma, how many cards Team Chroma have to pay in the beginning of R2?
- If Team Rainbow ends up using anything but Lieutenant/Upgrades against Team Chroma, how many cards Team Chroma have to pay in the beginning of R2?
Post by: ARTHANASIOS on August 30, 2016, 04:48:06 am
*** dum dum dum ***
Post by: andretimpa on August 30, 2016, 05:19:06 am
Post by: Submachine on August 30, 2016, 10:04:57 am
It looks like :entropy :life and :light both go against 2 Generals this round. I didn't read much of the rules, but my question is: will it be prevented in future rounds that teams consecutively face multiple Generals?
Post by: Heman on August 30, 2016, 05:49:38 pm
Post by: iancudorinmarian on August 30, 2016, 05:51:28 pm
Am i obligated to use the Event card ?Nope, it says right after it "Players may"
Post by: rob77dp on August 30, 2016, 06:18:47 pm
Am i obligated to use the Event card ?
willuuuuuuu - get your team in line with these General-answer-able questions!
;D
/sarcasm-button-depress
Post by: iancudorinmarian on August 30, 2016, 06:27:42 pm
But it was answered by a generalAm i obligated to use the Event card ?
willuuuuuuu - get your team in line with these General-answer-able questions!
;D
/sarcasm-button-depress
Post by: vagman13 on August 30, 2016, 07:17:22 pm
Post by: willng3 on August 30, 2016, 09:29:22 pm
Would if they were asked while I wasn't at work/uni >_>Am i obligated to use the Event card ?
willuuuuuuu - get your team in line with these General-answer-able questions!
;D
/sarcasm-button-depress
Post by: mathman101 on August 31, 2016, 07:28:10 am
- Is Bribery a team action (meaning, one Bribe benefits the entire team) or individual action (meaning, you need to Bribe more than once if you need more than one player needing that extra upgrade)?
- Suppose Team Chroma Bribes for two of their goons that faces Team Underworld's General and Team Rainbow's non-General.
- If Team Rainbow ends up using Lieutenant/Upgrades against Team Chroma, how many cards Team Chroma have to pay in the beginning of R2?
- If Team Rainbow ends up using anything but Lieutenant/Upgrades against Team Chroma, how many cards Team Chroma have to pay in the beginning of R2?
Individual Actions.
If Team Rainbow uses Lt/Upgrade boost, Team Chroma would pay 5(for vs underworld Gen) + 3 (for vs Rainbow Lt/Upgrade boost) = 8 total cards
If Team Rainbow does not use Lt/Upgrades boost, Team Chroma would pay 5(for vs underworld Gen) = 5 total cards
(both cases are of course if Team Chroma chooses to use the EC, as it is not a mandatory EC.)
Am i obligated to use the Event card ?
No the Event Card is not mandatory.
Some examples would be nice for the EC
Sure, Lets go back to that earth/entropy deck we were using before as an example(Sorry team earth).
Team Earth sends this deck with Soldier #8:
At the end of the deckbuilding team Earth is notified that Soldier #8 is facing a Lt (12 ups). Team Earth then has 24hrs to decide if they would like to use the Event Card and pay the cards to upgrade the extra cards.
Team Earth chooses to use the EC and sends this deck with Soldier #8:
All they have done is switched unupped cards to upped cards until they have a total of 12 upped cards.
They may not remove any cards:
ILLEGAL
They may not add in cards:
ILLEGAL
They may not unupgrade cards, and redistribute the 12 upgrades:
ILLEGAL
At the end of the deckbuilding team Earth is notified that Soldier #8 is facing a Lt (12 ups). Team Earth then has 24hrs to decide if they would like to use the Event Card and pay the cards to upgrade the extra cards.
Team Earth chooses to use the EC and sends this deck with Soldier #8:
All they have done is switched unupped cards to upped cards until they have a total of 12 upped cards.
They may not remove any cards:
ILLEGAL
They may not add in cards:
ILLEGAL
They may not unupgrade cards, and redistribute the 12 upgrades:
ILLEGAL
Hopefully that clears up any confusion.
Warmaster Notice
Please note that within 24 hours from the end of the deckbuilding deadline, teams must decide whether or not they would like to use the EC. This can be done by posting a topic in your secret section titled "Round 1 Event Card". Teams will be notified at deckbuilding deadline of which Soldiers will be able to use the Event Card if they are facing Gen/Lt/upgrades boost.
Post by: mathman101 on September 03, 2016, 02:29:39 am
Warmaster Notice
All Bribery names have been revealed to each team in their secret sections. If you wish to use the Event Card please respond in the 'Round 1 Event Card' post WMs made(or responded to) in each section before the following timer runs out with the added upgrades in the deck.
Post by: trashduke on September 03, 2016, 04:00:10 am
If you submit a 33-card sideboard deck with 8 ups vs. a General and use the event card for this match, you have 15 ups now. You distribute the ups which are locked on those cards as if this were the deck submitted in vault (i.e. the ups from the EC can't be re-distributed, they become locked onto those cards). Then you play your deck in game 1.
After g1, you can then remove 3 cards. If they are unupped cards... no problem. If they are upped cards (either from the EC or the original deck submitted), then you can upgrade 3 other cards from the deck. Aside from the 3 upped cards you removed, you cannot change any other upgrade allocations from the EC for the rest of the match.
Is that correct?
Post by: mathman101 on September 04, 2016, 12:20:52 am
Just a quick clarification on the way that Sideboard is interacting with the EC this round.
If you submit a 33-card sideboard deck with 8 ups vs. a General and use the event card for this match, you have 15 ups now. You distribute the ups which are locked on those cards as if this were the deck submitted in vault (i.e. the ups from the EC can't be re-distributed, they become locked onto those cards). Then you play your deck in game 1.
After g1, you can then remove 3 cards. If they are unupped cards... no problem. If they are upped cards (either from the EC or the original deck submitted), then you can upgrade 3 other cards from the deck. Aside from the 3 upped cards you removed, you cannot change any other upgrade allocations from the EC for the rest of the match.
Is that correct?
sorry for the late reply, but yes that is correct. and remember that you must still have 4 in-element upgrades if you remove upgraded cards and upgrade 3 other cards.