War #10 - General Discussion

[RavingRabbid]

We are a small enough community now that we can handle almost EVERYTHING on a case-by-case basis. We can be an actual gaming COMMUNITY in this way.

[worldwideweb3]

I also am for the penalty to be removed. It's something silly and not needed

[mrpaper]

We are a small enough community now that we can handle almost EVERYTHING on a case-by-case basis. We can be an actual gaming COMMUNITY in this way.

This!

Also, it's not like giving them a penalty for a lesson is gonna help this war in anyway.. a simple warning if anything would have been enough or just a give a 3 card penalty for the sake of saying this isn't in the spirit of the war.
On the other hand if WM'S think that this is a major way of disrupting the event... I guess the next thing will be to kick serprex out of team light since he ain't gonna change and I don't wanna see the same drama for round 6 and 7 etc., but I would much rather if they just tolerate what he did.  Keeping a 20 card penalty and doing nothing else seems the worst way to let things be at this moment!

[Odii Odsen]

Physs and mathman are fair and trying their best to treat all teams the same. I really respect your work and your decisions.
WM's are doing a great job, even if they made two mistakes IMO (Aether mark in Fire's deck and this one).

I just fear that people lose interest in events like this. Our community won't get bigger on this way. Two examples are 10 men and inthisroom who didn't agree on staffs decisions and left.

Btw. I love the EC in round 5.

[mrpaper]

Physs and mathman are fair and trying their best to treat all teams the same. I really respect your work and your decisions.
WM's are doing a great job, even if they made two mistakes IMO (Aether mark in Fire's deck and this one).

I just fear that people lose interest in events like this. Our community won't get bigger on this way. Two examples are 10 men and inthisroom who didn't agree on staffs decisions and left.

Btw. I love the EC in round 5.

I don't think anyone is questioning WM's efforts and fairness if anything, they deserve praise for this!  But players and WM's make mistake and WM's needs to make decisions on this kind of unpleasant stuff every war. The most simple and smooth way to go was just to say... no harm, no WM's care, no penalty go along and we will think of it next war... but i'm sure they thought of it pretty hard before deciding on punishing serprex/team light.  Is the fact we feel the penalty is unfair going to make them change their mind?  I don't know, but it sure add to the drama of war... which can be fun on the outside, but never much for the teams/players involved (I've been there many times!) and WM's.

By the way the EC of round 5 is in fact a nice one, nothing too original, but seems fair and will be fun to see who mines itself being too confident on a specific match!  And I also wanna see if teams are going to go the safe way or aim to make the top teams fall (air and gravity have a commanding lead as of now but we all know this can change quickly with a bad round).

[Aves]

WMs are doing the best they can to be impartial and fair. We should all respect that.

That said, I think it's a terrible shame that this had to come to pass at all. I vehemently disagree with the current interpretation of the rules. Banning multi-user accounts from PvP only harms the community. You can say that the rules were always meant to be interpreted in this way, but as it's been said, over and over-- there would be no way of telling without them directly admitting it. Enforcing a ban on multi-user accounts from PvP for simply being honest, upstanding people is ridiculous conceptually.

We are a small enough community now that we can handle almost EVERYTHING on a case-by-case basis. We can be an actual gaming COMMUNITY in this way.

[Odii Odsen]

I just fear that people lose interest in events like this. Our community won't get bigger on this way. Two examples are 10 men and inthisroom who didn't agree on staffs decisions and left.

I see this coming. http://elementscommunity.org/forum/farewell/serprex-63179/msg1247173/#msg1247173

[worldwideweb3]

fwiw, it might help clear stuff.

[2016-09-27 13:25:52] Physsion: The penalty was NOT given because serprex lives with his girlfriend, and they decided to spend some time together working on something. This isn't something we can stop, but direct collaboration with explicit vault access is something mathman and I decided that we weren't okay with

[Manuel]

i still don't understand this drama based on a guy and his gf in a game where 70% of matches are rng/luck based,  6 elements have no chances to win war and the hardest thing is keep the motivation for playing every week

[majofa]

Did the team know about this? If not, maybe a punishment just for serpex would be more fitting?

[Aves]

Did the team know about this? If not, maybe a punishment just for serpex would be more fitting?

The guy's already leaving the forums... what more do you want? Sheesh.

[andretimpa]

i still don't understand this drama based on a guy and his gf in a game where 70% of matches are rng/luck based,  6 elements have no chances to win war and the hardest thing is keep the motivation for playing every week

^ what this guy said