War #10 - General Discussion

[ARTHANASIOS]

I don't question that Admins can delete accounts, merely if it's ever happened to community members, and not spambots. I've never heard of a situation where people have actually requested their accounts deleted instead of drifting off quietly (or with a rant and barbs towards rivals). In any case, my argument is still that a team consists of five forum account entities/members. Strictly. Two people sharing a forum account is fine as long as each of those people have only access to that one forum account. Is it stated in the rules that two people cannot share an account? I've only heard that one person cannot have more than one account, not the other way around.

So, it is ok to have my whole family helping me with my vault organizing and deckbuilding at War with my ARTHANASIOS forum account. Yep, I am exaggerating, again...

[Aves]

As long as they don't have their own forum accounts, yes. Invite your whole city while you're at it, but if a person in that city has their own forum account then nope.

[worldwideweb3]

I don't question that Admins can delete accounts, merely if it's ever happened to community members, and not spambots. I've never heard of a situation where people have actually requested their accounts deleted instead of drifting off quietly (or with a rant and barbs towards rivals). In any case, my argument is still that a team consists of five forum account entities/members. Strictly. Two people sharing a forum account is fine as long as each of those people have only access to that one forum account. Is it stated in the rules that two people cannot share an account? I've only heard that one person cannot have more than one account, not the other way around.

So, it is ok to have my whole family helping me with my vault organizing and deckbuilding at War with my ARTHANASIOS forum account. Yep, I am exaggerating, again...

i would love to have your parents/siblings build decks against gravity...

[Higurashi]

Yes, people have requested deletion before.

The forum rules allow for forum account sharing, and there are no in-game rules for or against account sharing. That's why War has a rule against sharing information. Sharing an account is sharing information.

There's been a similar discussion for tournaments where people were cooperating during deckbuilding and even in-game decisions. It's been frowned upon and filed under the "honor code" that applies to all games in general, but there's no written rule against it. That's why organizers have the authority to act on a case-by-case basis and add new rules as needed. In other words, a TO could punish you for this kind of cheating even if it wasn't in writing, simply because it's obviously cheating. Perhaps adding this in writing to tournaments would help set a precedent.

[worldwideweb3]

Yes, people have requested deletion before.

The forum rules allow for forum account sharing, and there are no in-game rules for or against account sharing. That's why War has a rule against sharing information. Sharing an account is sharing information.

There's been a similar discussion for tournaments where people were cooperating during deckbuilding and even in-game decisions. It's been frowned upon and filed under the "honor code" that applies to all games in general, but there's no written rule against it. That's why organizers have the authority to act on a case-by-case basis and add new rules as needed. In other words, a TO could punish you for this kind of cheating even if it wasn't in writing, simply because it's obviously cheating. Perhaps adding this in writing to tournaments would help set a precedent.

kinda offtopic but i have seen people prep for tourneys together. I have seen vets help out newbies with tourney to help them improve. I dont see anything wrong with it personally.

[Aves]

The forum rules allow for forum account sharing, and there are no in-game rules for or against account sharing. That's why War has a rule against sharing information. Sharing an account is sharing information.

The entity is not sharing information, as the entity is the account. That two people can access the account doesn't seem to be significant to me, as they always act as one entity in this forum. There is no sharing of information with unauthorized entities.

[Higurashi]

The rules state "a player", not "an account".

[Aves]

The account entity "serprex" is the player. I think we're going into semantics at this point. You are advocating that the rules refer to people on an individual basis, whereas I am interpreting the rules to apply to account entities, which are usually but not always one person.

[ARTHANASIOS]

i would love to have your parents/siblings build decks against gravity...

Beware, I've managed to convince my mom to make an EtG game account a few months ago, though she stopped playing.

[Jenkar]

I'm with no penalty for light. We should appreciate honesty rather than penalise it. WMs can't prove serp asked kae without serp saying.

Honesty is a quality, but that is only an extenuating circumstance. It does not remove the fault (which is what is discussed right now, i believe).

Also, yall need to remember than rules & laws are blunt weapons, not cutting. While the discussion surely helps, i believe the matter is more in WMs hand and should in future cases always stay there, because that's what allows for a maximum of flexibility. I don't believe you could fairly hard-code all the different instances of this happening in the rules, ever.

[Higurashi]

The account entity "serprex" is the player. I think we're going into semantics at this point. You are advocating that the rules refer to people on an individual basis, whereas I am interpreting the rules to apply to account entities, which are usually but not always one person.

Semantics are important for clearing out ambiguity.

Imagine someone getting caught cheating and defending themselves with the argument that "I thought "player" meant "account" in the rules". There is a 0% chance they avoid punishment. Those two words clearly mean different things.

[Aves]

I am interacting you as "Aves." Aves is an account. There is one person sitting behind a computer screen acting as Aves. However, in an alternate reality, it could be two people acting as Aves. Any rules inside these forums apply to members of the forum. Members are by definition, accounts, not people. Though there is usually a one to relation, it is not always the case. Is it stated that one player is one person, rather than one account? The default assumption for any entities here should always refer to accounts, as I see no reason for it to refer to persons, as persons are not what the rules refer to.