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Elements the Game => War => Events and Competitions => War Archive => Topic started by: killsdazombies on June 09, 2010, 07:36:13 pm
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Round 2 - Deckbuilding
Below are round 2 matches selected randomly using http://www.random.org/lists/ . Teams now have to build a 30+ card deck for each team member.
When choosing your 30+ card deck, try to take into consideration your opponents possible strengths and weaknesses. Also recheck War deckbuilding rules. Illegal deck is an automatic loss.
Do not post your decks in public topics! Masters have been informed on where and how to post the decks.
Do not start battles just yet! This part is only for deckbuilding.
Time's up!
1. :life dragonhuman
2. :earth Demagog
3. :darkness melzardust
4. :air Jon94
5. :light Hobnob5000
6. :water ItzSean
7. :gravity PhantomFox
8. :water Kael Hate
9. :darkness Troh
10. :life Anothebrother
11. :earth PuppyChow
12. :entropy Rastafla
13. :light Candle
14. :death Malduk
15. :fire syco666
16. :entropy Zeru
17. :air valuka
18. :fire Corrum
19. :life Kurohami
20. :light implosion
21. :fire plastiqe
22. :aether wassd13
23. :time Rozpierdalator
24. :aether unionruler
25. :life Gl1tch
26. :time Xinef
27. :light Dragoon
28. :air unit748596
29. :life Amesjay
30. :light Helios
31. :fire cokeandaspirin
32. :aether assasim
33. :gravity jmdt
34. :aether icybraker
35. :earth Terroking
36. :gravity Jumbalumba
37. :air Hyroen
38. :earth Azumi
39. :death MrBlonde
40. :entropy jmizzle7
41. :air airframe
42. :gravity Smokefree
43. :entropy Svenningen
44. :air finkel
45. :darkness miniwally
46. :entropy Flare
47. :aether icecoldbro
48. :darkness killfer8
49. :death Mastermind79
50. :time Kuroaitou
51. :earth Didonko
52. :death coinich
53. :fire kevkev60614
54. :time bojengles77
55. :entropy Pervepic
56. :earth $$$man
57. :light xdude
58. :gravity xKelevra
59. :life gnikdoolb
60. :gravity Baily18
61. :fire Antagon
62. :water Harakirinosaru
63. :darkness Bloodshadow
64. :water The Dictator
65. :water Essence
66. :darkness UsernameLife
67. :death TheoCT
68. :time Flying Farenheit
69. :aether skyguy
70. :death ufcfan
71. :time Belthazar666
72. :water Levgre
Good luck
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earth again oh noes
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Haha good luck :-p mind telling me what deck you'll use? :-D
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Life again :O
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Too much EPICS:
Hobnob vs ItzSean (replay?)
PhantomFox vs Kael (Awzums)
PuppyChow vs Rastafla (Tourney Replay)
Candle vs Malduk (T50 duel)
Gl1tch vs Xinef (Mashtahs roks...and I meant to write like this)
Dragoon vs Unit (:-0)
TerroKing vs Jumbalumba (Pros)
Jmizzle vs MrBlonde (Too many Master fights)
Didonko vs Coinich (:-0)
There are way more, but too less time.
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Earth has some pretty good matchups this time around...
Once again, I'll be the first to get my predictions out!
1. :life dragonhuman
2. :earth Demagog (Winner...)
3. :darkness melzardust (Guessing)
4. :air Jon94
5. :light Hobnob5000 (Winner?)
6. :water ItzSean
7. :gravity PhantomFox
8. :water Kael Hate (This one should be very good. Probably Kael)
9. :darkness Troh (Darkness just has too much against Life's 0 control)
10. :life Anothebrother
11. :earth PuppyChow (Winner, although it should be by a hair)
12. :entropy Rastafla
13. :light Candle
14. :death Malduk (I haven't seen Candle PvP outside of his last match, so this might be wrong)
15. :fire syco666
16. :entropy Zeru (Winner)
17. :air valuka
18. :fire Corrum (Winner)
19. :life Kurohami
20. :light implosion (Who to pick, who to pick)
21. :fire plastiqe (Winner)
22. :aether wassd13
23. :time Rozpierdalator
24. :aether unionruler (Winner?)
25. :life Gl1tch (This one should be really good)
26. :time Xinef
27. :light Dragoon (Because he's... Dragoon)
28. :air unit748596
29. :life Amesjay (Because I gave the last Life/Light to :light)
30. :light Helios
31. :fire cokeandaspirin (Winner, he she pulls the right deck)
32. :aether rotface
33. :gravity jmdt
34. :aether icybraker (Icybraker :) )
35. :earth Terroking (Winner, obviously)
36. :gravity Jumbalumba
37. :air Hyroen
38. :earth Azumi (Azumi= ftw :D)
39. :death MrBlonde
40. :entropy jmizzle7 (jmizzle is jmizzle. 'Nuff saidx2)
41. :air airframe
42. :gravity Smokefree (vs. Air)
43. :entropy Svenningen (vs. Air)
44. :air acelink?
45. :darkness miniwally (Upgades should pull this one out)
46. :entropy Flare
47. :aether icecoldbro
48. :darkness killfer8 (I dunno... With Aether's current deck failiures... Still got a chance though)
49. :death Mastermind79 (This should be close. I think Time lost too much in the first round though)
50. :time Kuroaitou
51. :earth Didonko (Winner)
52. :death coinich
53. :fire kevkev60614 (See Kuro vs. Mastermind)
54. :time bojengles77
55. :entropy Pervepic
56. :earth $$$man (He's Earth. Winner)
57. :light xdude (Because I don't think there's much Gravity can do here)
58. :gravity xKelevra
59. :life gnikdoolb
60. :gravity Baily18 (Winner)
61. :fire Antagon (Master get's his worth)
62. :water Harakirinosaru
63. :darkness Bloodshadow (This one... I dunno...)
64. :water The Dictator
65. :water Essence (Essence put up a great fight last round :) )
66. :darkness UsernameLife
67. :death TheoCT (See #s 49 vs. 50 and 53 vs. 54)
68. :time Flying Farenheit
69. :aether skyguy
70. :death MeeCow (Death is doing vera guid)
71. :time Belthazar666 (Because I'm not mean enough to give Time 6 loses)
72. :water Levgre
And my predicted highlights!
11. :earth PuppyChow
12. :entropy Rastafla
25. :life Gl1tch
26. :time Xinef
27. :light Dragoon
28. :air unit748596
35. :earth Terroking
36. :gravity Jumbalumba
39. :death MrBlonde
40. :entropy jmizzle7
55. :entropy Pervepic
56. :earth $$$man
61. :fire Antagon
62. :water Harakirinosaru
65. :water Essence
66. :darkness UsernameLife
And many more. I just didn't mention them.
Jumba: I'm only giving myself a 90% win chance. That's how good I think you are ;) (This is positive btw... and a joke)
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Crap, round 2 already!?!
Hey Masters, could you go back and make sure your peeps have posted their losing decks? It's kinda hard to decide what to salvage when we don't know what they had. Thanks! ;)
PS: We're still waiting on decks from :aether skyguy and :fire syco666
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My Predictions!
1. :life dragonhuman
2. :earth Demagog (Win)
3. :darkness melzardust (Probably him)
4. :air Jon94
5. :light Hobnob5000 (Tough Win)
6. :water ItzSean
7. :gravity PhantomFox
8. :water Kael Hate (Tough Win)
9. :darkness Troh (Tough Win)
10. :life Anothebrother
11. :earth PuppyChow (Tough Win)
12. :entropy Rastafla
13. :light Candle
14. :death Malduk (No Idea, probably him)
15. :fire syco666
16. :entropy Zeru (Win)
17. :air valuka
18. :fire Corrum (Win)
19. :life Kurohami
20. :light implosion (Tough Win)
21. :fire plastiqe (Win)
22. :aether wassd13
23. :time Rozpierdalator
24. :aether unionruler (Win)
25. :life Gl1tch
26. :time Xinef (Tough Win)
27. :light Dragoon
28. :air unit748596 (Tough Win)
29. :life Amesjay (Tough Win)
30. :light Helios
31. :fire cokeandaspirin (Win, probably by forfeit from opponent)
32. :aether rotface
33. :gravity jmdt
34. :aether icybraker (Win)
35. :earth Terroking (No Idea, maybe Terro, since he's on a roll)
36. :gravity Jumbalumba
37. :air Hyroen
38. :earth Azumi (Win)
39. :death MrBlonde (Tough Win)
40. :entropy jmizzle7
41. :air airframe (Win)
42. :gravity Smokefree
43. :entropy Svenningen
44. :air acelink? (Since it's Finkel, it's a Tough Win for him)
45. :darkness miniwally (Win)
46. :entropy Flare
47. :aether icecoldbro
48. :darkness killfer8 (Tough Win)
49. :death Mastermind79 (Tough Win)
50. :time Kuroaitou
51. :earth Didonko
52. :death coinich (Tough Win)
53. :fire kevkev60614 (Win, he won Jmizzle)
54. :time bojengles77
55. :entropy Pervepic (Tough Win)
56. :earth $$$man
57. :light xdude (Win)
58. :gravity xKelevra
59. :life gnikdoolb
60. :gravity Baily18 (Win)
61. :fire Antagon (Win)
62. :water Harakirinosaru
63. :darkness Bloodshadow
64. :water The Dictator (Tough Win)
65. :water Essence (Win)
66. :darkness UsernameLife
67. :death TheoCT (Win)
68. :time Flying Farenheit
69. :aether skyguy
70. :death MeeCow (It's UFCfan, and Win)
71. :time Belthazar666 (Win)
72. :water Levgre
:aether - 2 Wins, 4 Losses
:air - 3 Wins, 3 Losses
:darkness - 4 Wins, 2 Losses
:death - 6 Wins, 0 Losses ( :o)
:earth - 4 Wins, 2 Losses
:entropy - 2 Wins, 4 Losses
:fire - 5 Wins, 1 Loss
:gravity - 1 Win, 5 Losses
:life - 1 Win, 5 Losses
:light - 3 Wins, 3 Losses
:time - 2 Wins, 4 Losses
:water - 3 Wins, 3 Losses
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Crap... that's really fast. 3 of my members haven't even battled yet so i have no idea what i'm going to have available in my vault....
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Sigh... darkness is the best! aether has no chance against us
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:-* 6-0? I think not. Didonko will win that. I'll post my predictions later
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Killsdazombies, can you change Meecow to UFCfan since he has taken Meecow's place? (number 70)
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41. :air airframe
42. :gravity Smokefree (vs. Air)
43. :entropy Svenningen (vs. Air)
44. :air acelink?
Ouch.
43. :entropy Svenningen
44. :air acelink? (Since it's Finkel, it's a Tough Win for him)
What do you mean, "Since it's Finkel"?
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I meant it would be tougher for you to fight Svenn, but I didn't mean it offensively.
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Because I'm less experienced or because I can't use upgraded cards?
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ouch im rooting for earth and i think you guys are beast but u have some very tough opponents. for example u couldnt pay me enough to duel rastafla.... he scares the crap out of me
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ouch im rooting for earth and i think you guys are beast but u have some very tough opponents. for example u couldnt pay me enough to duel rastafla.... he scares the crap out of me
xD
We've got it covered... I Hope.
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Seems like everyone thinks I'm going to lose against implosion. Well, with the last defeat, I can't really blame you. We'll see.
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i mean its puppychow but its also like.... rastafla....so yeah
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I replaced acelink since they disappeared. thats why unit is air's master. That being said I am going to be... gone away from internet due to real life from this saturday till around the following monday. so I will have to request that unit play for me while I am gone. as is allowed 3 times during the war.
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Seems like everyone thinks I'm going to lose against implosion. Well, with the last defeat, I can't really blame you. We'll see.
Well, so far everybody has me winning my first match and my second (still have yet to play my first). At least if people think you'll lose if you lose thats no biggie, if you win thats awesome for you. If people have you winning and you win, thats expected, but if you lose that realllly sucks, ya know?
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Seems like everyone thinks I'm going to lose against implosion. Well, with the last defeat, I can't really blame you. We'll see.
duh. :P
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Seems like everyone thinks I'm going to lose against implosion. Well, with the last defeat, I can't really blame you. We'll see.
Well, so far everybody has me winning my first match and my second (still have yet to play my first). At least if people think you'll lose if you lose thats no biggie, if you win thats awesome for you. If people have you winning and you win, thats expected, but if you lose that realllly sucks, ya know?
Yep, you are correct; but I rather win as expected than lose as expected, just saying. :P
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Seems like everyone thinks I'm going to lose against implosion. Well, with the last defeat, I can't really blame you. We'll see.
Well, so far everybody has me winning my first match and my second (still have yet to play my first). At least if people think you'll lose if you lose thats no biggie, if you win thats awesome for you. If people have you winning and you win, thats expected, but if you lose that realllly sucks, ya know?
Yep, you are correct; but I rather win as expected than lose as expected, just saying. :P
I'd rather win unexpectedly ;)
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How we are supposed to build decks? if we don't know what cards we salavage and what cards we lost :(
FFS wait us to finish round 1
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How we are supposed to build decks? if we don't know what cards we salavage and what cards we lost :(
FFS wait us to finish round 1
Like I said to you in chat, this deckbuilding phase lasts only 48 hours after round 1 has ended. We posted seedings beforehand to give you MORE time.
One round lasts a total of 6 days. 2 days of deckbuilding, 4 days of fighting. We cannot give any more time because then the event would last for months. It's a tight schedule, and teams really have to be active or they will get owned.
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How we are supposed to build decks? if we don't know what cards we salavage and what cards we lost :(
FFS wait us to finish round 1
Like I said to you in chat, this deckbuilding phase lasts only 48 hours after round 1 has ended. We posted seedings beforehand to give you MORE time.
One round lasts a total of 6 days. 2 days of deckbuilding, 4 days of fighting. We cannot give any more time because then the event would last for months. It's a tight schedule, and teams really have to be active or they will get owned.
i think you must do it 3 days deckbuilding 3 day fights
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How we are supposed to build decks? if we don't know what cards we salavage and what cards we lost :(
FFS wait us to finish round 1
Like I said to you in chat, this deckbuilding phase lasts only 48 hours after round 1 has ended. We posted seedings beforehand to give you MORE time.
One round lasts a total of 6 days. 2 days of deckbuilding, 4 days of fighting. We cannot give any more time because then the event would last for months. It's a tight schedule, and teams really have to be active or they will get owned.
i think you must do it 3 days deckbuilding 3 day fights
I personally would rather have more time to fight. Much harder to get people together to fight. Sides it's War. War ain't easy.
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Heh I love how people are tipping on me vs Candle while Xdude is fairly certain that :death has very little chance against :light in direct fight.
IMO, this fight will be much harder than my last one, as :light has lots of options to get match under control.
Deckbuilding time!
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Heh I love how people are tipping on me vs Candle while Xdude is fairly certain that :death has very little chance against :light in direct fight.
IMO, this fight will be much harder than my last one, as :light has lots of options to get match under control.
Deckbuilding time!
Generally, outside people are wrong. Outside people thought both Light and Death would be thrashed in the first round. They were wrong.
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Heh I love how people are tipping on me vs Candle while Xdude is fairly certain that :death has very little chance against :light in direct fight.
IMO, this fight will be much harder than my last one, as :light has lots of options to get match under control.
Deckbuilding time!
Generally, outside people are wrong. Outside people thought both Light and Death would be thrashed in the first round. They were wrong.
Wise words from a wise master. 8)
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Can I please ask whoever is updating the topic with defeated people to NOT erase the element icons in front of them?
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um... airframe and acelink arent on the air team...
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oh crap, my b-day party is during the whole weekend.... i MIGHT be able to make it, unlikely though...
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I was under the impression that after losing matches we did not have to commit players this coming round. If they do not play do we still lose 30 cards?
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ouch im rooting for earth and i think you guys are beast but u have some very tough opponents. for example u couldnt pay me enough to duel rastafla.... he scares the crap out of me
LAWL!
sorry unit :C
EDIT: airframe is still on your team right?
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I was under the impression that after losing matches we did not have to commit players this coming round. If they do not play do we still lose 30 cards?
If your team can build 6 legal decks, your team has to fight 6 times. If you don't fight, you forfeit and lose 30 cards.
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I was under the impression that after losing matches we did not have to commit players this coming round. If they do not play do we still lose 30 cards?
If your team can build 6 legal decks, your team has to fight 6 times. If you don't fight, you forfeit and lose 30 cards.
If player 1 makes a deck, in the process preventing player 6 from making a deck, do we only have to put forward 5 players?
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I was under the impression that after losing matches we did not have to commit players this coming round. If they do not play do we still lose 30 cards?
If your team can build 6 legal decks, your team has to fight 6 times. If you don't fight, you forfeit and lose 30 cards.
If player 1 makes a deck, in the process preventing player 6 from making a deck, do we only have to put forward 5 players?
If your team can build 6 legal decks, you have to do it no matter what the decks look like. You cannot build a deck that for example uses 60 :water cards so that there's not enough of them for others.
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I was under the impression that after losing matches we did not have to commit players this coming round. If they do not play do we still lose 30 cards?
If your team can build 6 legal decks, your team has to fight 6 times. If you don't fight, you forfeit and lose 30 cards.
If player 1 makes a deck, in the process preventing player 6 from making a deck, do we only have to put forward 5 players?
If your team can build 6 legal decks, you have to do it no matter what the decks look like. You cannot build a deck that for example uses 60 :water cards so that there's not enough of them for others.
Thats harsh
6x legal decks <> 6x playable decks
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I was under the impression that after losing matches we did not have to commit players this coming round. If they do not play do we still lose 30 cards?
If your team can build 6 legal decks, your team has to fight 6 times. If you don't fight, you forfeit and lose 30 cards.
If player 1 makes a deck, in the process preventing player 6 from making a deck, do we only have to put forward 5 players?
If your team can build 6 legal decks, you have to do it no matter what the decks look like. You cannot build a deck that for example uses 60 :water cards so that there's not enough of them for others.
Thats harsh
6x legal decks <> 6x playable decks
That was my interpretation of the rules as SG stated. Thats why i made sure we had enough death cards in the event that we lost quite a few in the beginning.
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Question 1:
If your team can build 6 legal decks, your team has to fight 6 times. If you don't fight, you forfeit and lose 30 cards.
This all seems reasonable and normal, but...
If team has 90 (6*15) cards of their element, but makes 5 decks with those, and picks 30 random cards for "forfeit" (this deck is not legal), is that ok? Seems better than making 6 bad decks.
IMO, that should be allowed, but essentially gives free win to "chosen" element 6th deck is up against.
EDIT: this has been answered while I was typing...
Question 2:
Team has enough cards to make only 5 legal decks - means one play is skipping a round here.
So far seeding has been done randomly by selecting players names. Who will decide which player is out for the round? If its master (which is reasonable), thats one more step in the communication that has to be done BEFORE the seeding (masters should know this in time to organize their team).
Other possibility would be to seed just elements, and let masters fill spaces with player names (masters will have special seeding so they dont manipulate masters vs masters match).
Question 3:
There is a huge chance that there will be odd number of legal decks in total. What happens to the lonely deck? Gets a bye? What if that bye deck is the only deck one team can make? Sits through while others beat up on each other? ;D
Question / Suggestion 4 (wrong thread, but to limit spam :P )
After certain number of rounds, it is quite possible that some teams will have more alien cards than their own cards in the vault, as you're mostly looting cards from other elements, while when you lose, you lose shitload of your own element cards.
How about a system of "trading prisoners" 2:1 - 2 cards from other element for 1 card of your own element, done at the same time as salvaging cards?
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If your team can build 6 legal decks, you have to do it no matter what the decks look like. You cannot build a deck that for example uses 60 :water cards so that there's not enough of them for others.
Thats harsh
6x legal decks <> 6x playable decks
Yes, well that's where the Vault and deckbuilding becomes important.
I happen to know that some teams built decks without any consideration on what happens if they lose those cards and have to build new decks using cards left in the Vault. I wouldn't bet my money on those teams because building a Vault without actually thinking what kind of decks can be built from those cards is a recipe for disaster.
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Master decides who skips the round. But WHEN he decides this, is indeed a problem because seeding for round 2 starts before round 1 fights are over. I have to think about this.
Masters filling the spaces is one extra step I'd really like to avoid because at least one Masters won't do it (always happens with 12+ people).
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When we do the random list and the total number of players in uneven, the last person in that list gets a bye.
4.
Hm.. I like that "trading prisoners" idea. That might work pretty well. But to keep things simple, lets save that for War #2.
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Master decides who skips the round. But WHEN he decides this, is indeed a problem because seeding for round 2 starts before round 1 fights are over. I have to think about this.
Masters filling the spaces is one extra step I'd really like to avoid because at least one Masters won't do it (always happens with 12+ people).
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When we do the random list and the total number of players in uneven, the last person in that list gets a bye.
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Hm.. I like that "trading prisoners" idea. That might work pretty well. But to keep things simple, lets save that for War #2.
5. when is war #2
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New War starts every two months.
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2 days left for round 2 deckbuilding and salvaging/discarding.
If you are unable to complete this is time, please let the Warmaster know about it as soon as possible.
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Sorry to ruin a well-hyped matchup everyone, but I'm going out of town until next Thursday, so I won't be playing in round 2.
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We switched to a 3/3 system, meaning there's one more extra day to complete this phase.
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What's a 3/3 system? 3 days for each phase?
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What's a 3/3 system? 3 days for each phase?
3 days for deckbuilding, 3 days for duels.
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I don't need the extended 30 minutes anymore (not sure if you were giving it me anyway, got back earlier than expected).
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I don't need the extended 30 minutes anymore (not sure if you were giving it me anyway, got back earlier than expected).
Ok, good.
TEAM :airbig you need to make those decks asap!!!
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