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Elements the Game => War => Events and Competitions => War Archive => Topic started by: Scaredgirl on May 29, 2010, 02:17:01 pm
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Special Mark cards can be obtained by winning a tournament. In the past, they were also winnable from the slots, but now it's replaced in the spins by a Relic.
Huge majority of players don't have these cards, and probably have never even seen them.
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No. :)
Huge majority of players don't have these cards, and probably have never even seen them.
This is the reason why. The majority of players have seen Nymphs and rare weapons, but not mark cards. It's simple logic that the former two should be allowed while the latter is too rare to be allowed.
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Plus, I highly doubt any team consists of a bunch of players whom all have the same mark cards. The value of a mark card is bragging rights, and maybe protection against earthquake/tridents. It's rarity surpasses it's value.
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Special Mark cards can be obtained by winning a tournament. In the past, they were also winnable from the slots, but now it's replaced in the spins by a Relic.
Huge majority of players don't have these cards, and probably have never even seen them.
YES!
and exactly that is the reason. we are always trying to make tournaments open for more players, and with mark-cards, they will ask where they are from, we could tell them: from tournaments. at least the master of their team could tell them, so theyll maybe join tournaments in the future.
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Let it in there. I don't think it does too much harm.
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i dont understand what the big deal is... they help much less than nymphs so they wont be making it so that better players get more advantages and like antagon said they will spark more interest in tournaments...
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I voted "I dont care". They give very small advantage to the player in the team that has those, while being an alien in the vault for those teammates who cannot use them. I dont have any mark cards, but dont have anything against them being used against me.
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Not allowing marks is silly. Team Air is better if it recruits players who have owl eyes and blue nymphs. Why WOULDN'T that extend to marks? War is supposed to draw the best players, many of whom have placed in previous tourneys. Why penalize winners who opted for marks over nymphs?
Note: I don't have any marks.
Icy: concern that a player in the War might not know what a mark is because they're too rare... well I have some concerns over team aether.
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Not allowing marks is silly. Team Air is better if it recruits players who have owl eyes and blue nymphs. Why WOULDN'T that extend to marks? War is supposed to draw the best players, many of whom have placed in previous tourneys. Why penalize winners who opted for marks over nymphs?
Note: I don't have any marks.
Icy: concern that a player in the War might not know what a mark is because they're too rare... well I have some concerns over team aether.
Did you vote no?
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Did you vote no?
And now I have concerns about team light. :)
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The problem I see is that some marks are probably much more common there other. I don't know for sure, but I've mostly seen :fire marks. Maybe they were the most common when they were winnable from slots, because that would cause a 'chain reaction' :P
Am I right? Because if there is indeed such an imbalance in the number of marks and allowing them would in fact affect only a few teams that actually have these, then I'm against.
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Did you vote no?
And now I have concerns about team light. :)
I asked because I think the poll was at 6 "yes" and 8 "no" before your post... I could've been wrong though...
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Yes.
Huge marjority of players don't have access to Nymphs, and these are much more powerful than mark cards. If marks are banned for being rare, then you have to ban Nymphs for being rare too.
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i personally think this poll is obsolete, if you make one with "ban earthquake" the result will be similar, but the reasons NOT to ban are still better, some know. i dont think its rewarding making polls about anything, something should stay in the sentence of the organisator(s), and just count the reasons why ppl want to ban marks and why they dont want them to be banned, then you come to the conclusio that reasons for ban are not that reasonable (only i wrote from here is that some ppl even dont know marks, i voted that also as a pro for them, not a contra)
fact is, marks will be banned, or stay banned, and it really doesnt make a great difference
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I'd personally say no, just because I know some of the people who joined don't even know about these 'Mark' cards, and probably feel like they would be facing against a 'pseudo'-false god if a person with say, 3 :death marks just randomly showed up.
You may say Nymphs are just as rare and powerful, but I say that anything in the game that provides a extreme long-term investment/production of quanta generation (marks, not Supernovas or Immolation) is even more powerful from the overall benefit it provides to a player.
So again, no. Perhaps in the future though, when multiple other means of quanta generation are implemented, can marks be thrown in the mix for War and whatnot. ;)
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I don't really care, since Mark cards aren't really that much different from pillars. But I vote no, just in case some newbie yells "OMFG H4X!" or something like that.
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Due to the rarity of marks, and the fact that most players on the team will not have them, I say why not. Its almost a dead card really. If they want to put in a card only 1-2 of them will be able to use, it's their bad tactics.
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No offense, but I think the question is flawed. "Should players be able to use super rare marks?" makes people think they're extra awesome. The firs post also doesn't sound too neutral :P. I bet that if you rephrased the first question into "Should players be able to us Mark cards, which are like pillars, in the war?" the result would've been different
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No offense, but I think the question is flawed. "Should players be able to use super rare marks?" makes people think they're extra awesome. The firs post also doesn't sound too neutral :P. I bet that if you rephrased the first question into "Should players be able to us Mark cards, which are like pillars, in the war?" the result would've been different
What I say there is the truth. There are maybe a couple of dozen active players who own Mark cards. Then there are thousands of players who have never even seen them. Mark cards are clearly the most rare cards in the game, therefore "super rare".
And if you imply that I'm trying to affect the vote somehow, you are wrong. I personally couldn't care less to be honest. I even voted "I don't care".
I'm a bit torn on this. One one hand I hate needless restrictions, but on the other hand I like simple things. My only concern is that this would lead to "omg he cheated!" type of situations.
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You may say Nymphs are just as rare and powerful, but I say that anything in the game that provides a extreme long-term investment/production of quanta generation (marks, not Supernovas or Immolation) is even more powerful from the overall benefit it provides to a player.
You've got to be shitting me? Do you actually believe what you're writing? Marks are a tiny, tiny, tiny, even minuscule amount better than a pillar, but not really even that much better... nymphs are their own creatures with special highly valued abilities that you can build decks around. Please show me a deck that wouldnt work if you substitute a pillar for a mark...
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I personally think yes. They are rewards; why limit them? Also, if you are worried about people being confused, its a great chance to expand the exposure of the forum and the tournaments too. What a recruiting tool; special cards!
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I have made a decision.
Mark cards will be allowed.
Main reason for this is that I don't think we should have restrictions that limit deck building unless we absolutely have to. Shard of Gratitude is a different story because it kills the whole mono/duo thing of this tournament by giving all Teams access to easy healing.
They might cause some confusion, but like others have said, this is a good time to educate people about them, and maybe even get more people interested in tournaments.
So lets go with this and see what happens.
P.s. this poll means absolutely nothing because many people will vote "no" simply because they don't have mark cards.
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The mark cards are okey, as it may give one player a buff, but it is useless and placetaking for the rest of the team.
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