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Elements the Game => War => Events and Competitions => War Archive => Topic started by: Scaredgirl on October 14, 2010, 06:52:57 am
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Join War: Underworld
War: Underworld is an event designed to give players who didn't get past the War auction, a new chance to join the War, and even ultimately win the whole thing! Path to victory won't be easy, but with a lot of skill and bit of a luck, you now have a change to pay back to the Generals who didn't think you were valuable enough to join their team.
Signing up closes in: signing up has closed!
Event starts in: War: Underworld has started!
1. Read War: Underworld Rules (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13922.0.html)
2. Join by posting on this topic. Include a link to your (failed) War auction application. If you do not include this link, your name will not be added to the list.
3. Your name will be added to the list by the organizers. There are 64 spots available, given on a first come first serve basis.
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4. Wait for further instructions.
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I shall attempt to join :D
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13409.msg180440#msg180440
^ my failed application
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Looking forward to it.
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13161.0.html
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No one likes me ... I don't have any friends ... Everyone picks on me ...
BUT at least, I WILL kick some butts here! RAWRGH
Narf (fail0r) (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13101.0.html)
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http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13100.0.html
Oh, it's on like Donkey Kong!
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I'm ready for the underworld revolution! >:D wuhhaaa
Sodomir http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13046.msg176734#msg176734 (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13046.msg176734#msg176734)
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I'll give it a go.
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13096.msg182694#msg182694
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sign me up
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13158.0.html
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Put me up =P
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13378.0.html
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Sign me up!
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13086.0.html
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:) im so happy this is happening =D
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13052.0.html (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13052.0.html)
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i sense that this event will bring along some serious annoyance, since a lot of people are gonna sign up and not show up and such. Even if they do... i'm sure a lot of them, as noobs, would have natural dyslexia in failing to read the rules.
Well, good luck to the potential members of the team Underworld :D
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i sense that this event will bring along some serious annoyance, since a lot of people are gonna sign up and not show up and such. Even if they do... i'm sure a lot of them, as noobs, would have natural dyslexia in failing to read the rules.
Well, good luck to the potential members of the team Underworld :D
Don't wish them luck! They are the enemies!
With this said, may the worst of you win!
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i sense that this event will bring along some serious annoyance, since a lot of people are gonna sign up and not show up and such. Even if they do... i'm sure a lot of them, as noobs, would have natural dyslexia in failing to read the rules.
Well, good luck to the potential members of the team Underworld :D
Reading the rules would tell you that their team will consist of those that actually stick around and win this battle they are signing up now for. I think there's a higher chance of regular team members to drop out than from a team grouped up after a tournament.
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Don't wish them luck! They are the enemies!
With this said, may the worst of you win!
Are you afraid of a couple of newbs?
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http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13482.0.html
My application!
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this will be my revenge.... and YOUR end! page 3 in slave market... much anger in me!!! >:D
haha, just kidding, nice event, hope it will bring fun!!!
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13390.0.html
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http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13114.msg177113#msg177113
Can I haz revenge pl0x? :D
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http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13353.0.html
You will all die. End of story. Actually, about 7 people will live, but that's beside the point. To the deckbuilder!
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revenge, and victory shall belong to the underworld!
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13426.msg180680#msg180680
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http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13394.msg181190.html
Go Team Underworld!!!!
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let's see if I can get my revenge.....................
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13530.msg181915#msg181915
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maybe there will be a dark side of each element (cept darkness which will get a lighter side) and will have to beat u underworlders to gain some respect around here
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http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13144.msg177353#msg177353
:( I wanna join :(
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http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13325.msg179190#msg179190
<Insert random comment about joining Team Underworld and revenge stuff.>
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me me! Revenge!!
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13318.0.html
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I find it awkward that I have like twice as many posts as anyone else who signed up for this 0.o
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I find it awkward that I have like twice as many posts as anyone else who signed up for this 0.o
sry for OT, but i find it awkward that you really think this does matter...
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http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13889.msg187804#msg187804
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http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13889.msg187804#msg187804
That does not count as an application because 1. There is no real application for rookie and 2. Auction had already been ended. Sorry, but you are not eliglible
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http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13216.msg188972#msg188972
I was too new to get bid on, and I'm grinding too fast to be a rookie....
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sign me up
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13256.0.html
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Did you apply for war xdawn? if so link your application in your post, if not well you cant join underworld
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i wanna join here hahaha
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13039.0.html (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13039.0.html) my failed appli
looking forward of going all-in on this event.. :))
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Sign me up:
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13109.msg177066#msg177066
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I might stand a chance at this...
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13237.msg178006#msg178006
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I was expecting.... more :/
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I was expecting.... more :/
I think the current number is pretty good. If we have 32 players or less, we can finish the event much faster.
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oooooooh i wanna join :)
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13091.0.html
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Why, hello
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13097.0.html
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I want to join!
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13323.0.html
But splash will win be in the top 8
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i sense that ....a lot of people are gonna sign up and not show up and such. Even if they do... i'm sure a lot of them, as noobs, would have natural dyslexia in failing to read the rules.
Flaming the rejects. Nice.
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FredThaCat signs up for revenge:
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13210.0.html
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I want to join!
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13323.0.html
But splash will win be in the top 8
isnt that pretty obvious :P
but i see you getting pretty far yourself :)
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I want to join!
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13323.0.html
But splash will win be in the top 8
isnt that pretty obvious :P
but i see you getting pretty far yourself :)
Yes, for about 2 weeks of playing I have been progressing very quickly... But those 2 weeks add up to nothing. Oh and, ScaredGirl, do you have any idea when War#3 will start? I don't think I can make it into War#2. It would be great if I managed to get in a team though
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sign me up only cause it sounds cool
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13924.0.html
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sign me up only cause it sounds cool
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13924.0.html
This link is not an application.
Someone added glowing ice to the list as well, and he did not have an application either.
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http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13399.0.html (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13399.0.html)
im in and will win
Moderator Comment Corrected the link for you.
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do i need to make an application if i havent already if i wanna join this
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do i need to make an application if i havent already if i wanna join this
Yes, you need to make an application, but signup period ended a long time ago. You will have to wait until next time.
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http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13399.0.html (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13399.0.html)
im in and will win
Corrected the link for you.
thanks alot
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o ok then dang
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i can go for a second shot to join a team,count me in http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13057.0.html :D
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Got bored and decided to write a tiny speech along with my application.
I was supposed to be bought by a master but when I got NOTHING, you hear me NOTHING, I got angry, and you won't like me when I am angry. I am here to get back at the masters, I will join in on this revenge against the Selfish WRONG masters but Now WE will get revenge. The last War broke out when I had just gotten started with my initiation to Mastering the Elements. With :fire's success I believed that nothing would stop me from being on the next team that would dominate. I tried to sell myself as a slave and I was ignored, rarely looked at, and I am angry. My application is still good with only a few new changes to be made and now, NOW, I will come back and prove that they shouldn't have left me ignored. Here is my application, http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13252.0.html, nothing will stop me from destroying the menace of the masters. and even if I don't get in, then all the power to The Underworld.
WE WILL GET REVENGE!
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Sign me up for this.http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13036.0.html
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Got bored and decided to write a tiny speech along with my application.
I was supposed to be bought by master but when I got NOTHING, you hear me NOTHING. I am here to get back at the masters, I will become the join in on this revenge against the Selfish WRONG masters but Now WE will get revenge. When the last War broke out I had just gotten started with my initiation to Mastering the Elements. With :fire's success I believed that nothing would stop me from being on the next team that would dominate. I tried to sell myself as a slave and I was ignored, rarely looked at, and I am angry. My application is still good with only a few new changes to be made and now, NOW, I will come back and prove that they shouldn't have left me ignored. Here is my application, http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13252.0.html, nothing will stop me from destroying the menace of the masters. and even if I don't get in, then all the power to The Underworld.
WE WILL GET REVENGE!
nice speech right there. That should be the speech for team Underworld when we finalize the team. It sounds like you really want revenge.
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Got bored and decided to write a tiny speech along with my application.
I was supposed to be bought by master but when I got NOTHING, you hear me NOTHING. I am here to get back at the masters, I will become the join in on this revenge against the Selfish WRONG masters but Now WE will get revenge. When the last War broke out I had just gotten started with my initiation to Mastering the Elements. With :fire's success I believed that nothing would stop me from being on the next team that would dominate. I tried to sell myself as a slave and I was ignored, rarely looked at, and I am angry. My application is still good with only a few new changes to be made and now, NOW, I will come back and prove that they shouldn't have left me ignored. Here is my application, http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13252.0.html, nothing will stop me from destroying the menace of the masters. and even if I don't get in, then all the power to The Underworld.
WE WILL GET REVENGE!
nice speech right there. That should be the speech for team Underworld when we finalize the team. It sounds like you really want revenge.
thanks I just got really bored and had nothing to do. plus when I wrote this I wasn't happy about something in the first place so it might also my anger coming out from that. so good luck to anyone and everyone. POWER TO THE OUTCASTS
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Got bored and decided to write a tiny speech along with my application.
I was supposed to be bought by master but when I got NOTHING, you hear me NOTHING. I am here to get back at the masters, I will become the join in on this revenge against the Selfish WRONG masters but Now WE will get revenge. When the last War broke out I had just gotten started with my initiation to Mastering the Elements. With :fire's success I believed that nothing would stop me from being on the next team that would dominate. I tried to sell myself as a slave and I was ignored, rarely looked at, and I am angry. My application is still good with only a few new changes to be made and now, NOW, I will come back and prove that they shouldn't have left me ignored. Here is my application, http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13252.0.html, nothing will stop me from destroying the menace of the masters. and even if I don't get in, then all the power to The Underworld.
WE WILL GET REVENGE!
Wow! I just realized all the grammar mistakes it is time to start fixing stuff!
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Got bored and decided to write a tiny speech along with my application.
I was supposed to be bought by master but when I got NOTHING, you hear me NOTHING. I am here to get back at the masters, I will become the join in on this revenge against the Selfish WRONG masters but Now WE will get revenge. When the last War broke out I had just gotten started with my initiation to Mastering the Elements. With :fire's success I believed that nothing would stop me from being on the next team that would dominate. I tried to sell myself as a slave and I was ignored, rarely looked at, and I am angry. My application is still good with only a few new changes to be made and now, NOW, I will come back and prove that they shouldn't have left me ignored. Here is my application, http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13252.0.html, nothing will stop me from destroying the menace of the masters. and even if I don't get in, then all the power to The Underworld.
WE WILL GET REVENGE!
Wow! I just realized all the grammar mistakes it is time to start fixing stuff!
Eh. Good luck with that.
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Can't understand why my amazing kittehness didn't get me chosen, anyhow I can hopefull demonstrate the power of kittehs. Sign me up!
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13458.0.html
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Got bored and decided to write a tiny speech along with my application.
I was supposed to be bought by master but when I got NOTHING, you hear me NOTHING. I am here to get back at the masters, I will become the join in on this revenge against the Selfish WRONG masters but Now WE will get revenge. When the last War broke out I had just gotten started with my initiation to Mastering the Elements. With :fire's success I believed that nothing would stop me from being on the next team that would dominate. I tried to sell myself as a slave and I was ignored, rarely looked at, and I am angry. My application is still good with only a few new changes to be made and now, NOW, I will come back and prove that they shouldn't have left me ignored. Here is my application, http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13252.0.html, nothing will stop me from destroying the menace of the masters. and even if I don't get in, then all the power to The Underworld.
WE WILL GET REVENGE!
Wow! I just realized all the grammar mistakes it is time to start fixing stuff!
Eh. Good luck with that.
XD some (alot) of those are incomplete sentences
ow here is my super small war speech for inspiration for whoever does write the final version
We have been ignored! We are good yet the masters have ignored us! *talks half to self* They have no idea what a mistake they have made.
Hear me brethren, we shall have our revenge!!!!
and, and for a dose of ironicy, this was ignored last time I posted it XD
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Got bored and decided to write a tiny speech along with my application.
I was supposed to be bought by a master but when I got NOTHING, you hear me NOTHING, I got angry, and you won't like me when I am angry. I am here to get back at the masters, I will join in on this revenge against the Selfish WRONG masters but Now WE will get revenge. The last War broke out when I had just gotten started with my initiation to Mastering the Elements. With :fire's success I believed that nothing would stop me from being on the next team that would dominate. I tried to sell myself as a slave and I was ignored, rarely looked at, and I am angry. My application is still good with only a few new changes to be made and now, NOW, I will come back and prove that they shouldn't have left me ignored. Here is my application, http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13252.0.html, nothing will stop me from destroying the menace of the masters. and even if I don't get in, then all the power to The Underworld.
WE WILL GET REVENGE!
Haha nice speech forsaken brother! No matter who gets to be in the team, i hope team underworld kicks some serious ignorant butt! :)
If you think about it, the public will be cheering up for this team more than any other.
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Got bored and decided to write a tiny speech along with my application.
I was supposed to be bought by a master but when I got NOTHING, you hear me NOTHING, I got angry, and you won't like me when I am angry. I am here to get back at the masters, I will join in on this revenge against the Selfish WRONG masters but Now WE will get revenge. The last War broke out when I had just gotten started with my initiation to Mastering the Elements. With :fire's success I believed that nothing would stop me from being on the next team that would dominate. I tried to sell myself as a slave and I was ignored, rarely looked at, and I am angry. My application is still good with only a few new changes to be made and now, NOW, I will come back and prove that they shouldn't have left me ignored. Here is my application, http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13252.0.html, nothing will stop me from destroying the menace of the masters. and even if I don't get in, then all the power to The Underworld.
WE WILL GET REVENGE!
Haha nice speech forsaken brother! No matter who gets to be in the team, i hope team underworld kicks some serious ignorant butt! :)
If you think about it, the public will be cheering up for this team more than any other.
I seriously agree. i said something about it in chat yesterday and about half the chat said they were rooting for underworld too. :)
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underground team, espescially if im in it, will pwn every other elements
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underground team, espescially if im in it, will pwn every other elements
There are some great players signed up. I'm really surprised some of these players did not make a team until Underworld. But what is with only 28 out of the 69 applications going for Underworld? I guess it is better than everyone going for it, and 5 not making it! To be the only 5 that did not make it into War would be sad :(
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There are some great players signed up. I'm really surprised some of these players did not make a team until Underworld. But what is with only 28 out of the 69 applications going for Underworld? I guess it is better than everyone going for it, and 5 not making it! To be the only 5 that did not make it into War would be sad :(
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i think it is because people are unaware. I didnt know about it until someone in chat said i would win it and i didnt no what i was gonna win. After a while, people give up on being in the war and dont go to the section of the forums again. and they ignore the post at top of the forums because they, like me, think it still says WAR instead of UNDERWORLD
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It looks like we will have a round of 32 instead of 64.
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yeah, hopefully, more chances for me to get in team, which means more chances for team to win war :P
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So, when does the Underworld Tournament actually start?
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So, when does the Underworld Tournament actually start?
It starts at the same time at Round 1 of War. I asked SG in chat yesterday.
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So following the countdown at the front page?
Oh and, does anybody here know why I can't change my application? I need to update my score/cards etc.
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Oh and, does anybody here know why I can't change my application? I need to update my score/cards etc.
I made the whole section read-only. Auction is done so there is no need to keep editing those applications.
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Oh and, does anybody here know why I can't change my application? I need to update my score/cards etc.
I made the whole section read-only. Auction is done so there is no need to keep editing those applications.
Dang. I was going to add 3 miracles for bragging rights. Oh well. Thanks to whoever it was for giving us a miracle farm btw!
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lol my speech got ignored again XD
anyways, I guess the underground will be joining the war after it has started
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lol my speech got ignored again XD
anyways, I guess the underground will be joining the war after it has started
underWORLD
Anyway, should we be in chat when the event starts? this is my first war so idk how it works.
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i read your speech both time high lord, believe me, each time a post adds to this i read it O.O
(<----- this guy is wayy too stressed about war)
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i read your speech both time high lord, believe me, each time a post adds to this i read it O.O
(<----- this guy is wayy too stressed about war)
lol im stressed about it too. im reading each and every post too :P
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yeah, i guess that means we both should be in team :P
(http://oi52.tinypic.com/zxw2a8.jpg)
U for Underground / Underworld
UNDERGROUND/UNDERWORLD FTW
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yeah, i guess that means we both should be in team :P
i think ur rite ;D hope we both get on the team... there will be no stopping us!
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hm.....that reminds me, underworld should have a symbol or something to identify it. Maybe
U
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well no matter what
Good luck to all but we will get back at the 12 "masters" who thought it to be a good idea to leave some of the BEST players that Elements have to offer. US!
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Just wanted to wish you all good luck in the coming Underworld tourney and your subsequent entry into War. Also i read every single one of the applications that was posted so i certainly did not ignore anyone.
And lol, no need to call us idiots DragonZ. I understand a little motivation is needed but lets have a little respect. Thanks. ;)
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Just wanted to wish you all good luck in the coming Underworld tourney and your subsequent entry into War. Also i read every single one of the applications that was posted so i certainly did not ignore anyone.
And lol, no need to call us idiots DragonZ. I understand a little motivation is needed but lets have a little respect. Thanks. ;)
ehh tried to get back into speech form but was just too tired... sorry if I insulted you though.
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ehh tried to get back into speech form but was just too tired... sorry if I insulted you though.
Not insulted. Just saying is all. ;D
I think Team Rainbow will be very dangerous especially if you all vault build well and pay attention to the decks that we are using. You guys come in at round 5 with 240 cards. Haven't done the math yet but you guys probably will be looking decent cardwise. Unfortunately with 240 cards and 8 players if you matchup against a team with 240+ cards you are forced to play 30 card decks.
Anyhow i wish you guys well and hope you guys go far.
ETA - okay did the math and actually the least amount of average number of cards each team will have at the start of round 5 will be 354.25 barring penalties. So actually you guys are in a bit of a hole. If you guys/gals weren't limited to max 3 copies of cards the decks you all could make would be pretty sick.
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Hm.....around 350? Would making team underworld start with that or 340 in round 5 be slightly more fair?
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Hm.....around 350? Would making team underworld start with that or 340 in round 5 be slightly more fair?
I think 350 would be too much (they are underdogs after all) but i also think 240 is too little since they are pretty much forced to take eight 30 card decks which limits strategy. I think anything from 270-300 probably would be a bit more fair leaning closer to the 270-280 mark.
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Not insulted. Just saying is all. ;D
Wow I just noticed that after we and my parents went I'm just sayin for 10 mins
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i think 350 is better, oh and if you want you can give us 400 also ... :P
no but seriously, 300 would be reasonable wouldnt it? you said minimum would be 350, but it doesnt mean anyone will be at minimum, and even if they were they would have 50 cards on us.
Also, 240 is the exact number for 30 card decks for each of us... so we would have the build the vault the exact decks we will use?
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*underworld logo*
Lemme help
(http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/2877/underworldyh.png)
ffff, crappy borders.
blank mark by Bloodshadow.
Good luck underworld, you better be ready :b
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*underworld logo*
Lemme help
(http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/2877/underworldyh.png)
ffff, crappy borders.
blank mark by Bloodshadow.
Good luck underworld, you better be ready :b
Very nice, I approve. Since wishing luck is supposed to be bad luck... break a leg ;D
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*underworld logo*
Lemme help
(http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/2877/underworldyh.png)
ffff, crappy borders.
blank mark by Bloodshadow.
Good luck underworld, you better be ready :b
love it. thanks :D
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*underworld logo*
Lemme help
(http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/2877/underworldyh.png)
ffff, crappy borders.
blank mark by Bloodshadow.
Good luck underworld, you better be ready :b
pretty good. I like it!
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*underworld logo*
Lemme help
(http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/2877/underworldyh.png)
ffff, crappy borders.
blank mark by Bloodshadow.
Good luck underworld, you better be ready :b
like it, but doesn't really convey the sense of 'darkness' that underworld does, just saying :)
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*underworld logo*
Lemme help
(http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/2877/underworldyh.png)
ffff, crappy borders.
blank mark by Bloodshadow.
Good luck underworld, you better be ready :b
like it, but doesn't really convey the sense of 'darkness' that underworld does, just saying :)
I don't think "Underworld" suggests "darkness" in this case- more like a sense of "rougeness"- like a band of thieves or something in a kingdom, that don't completely obey the king's laws (then again, I might have simply read too much fiction :P)
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i think 350 is better, oh and if you want you can give us 400 also ... :P
no but seriously, 300 would be reasonable wouldnt it? you said minimum would be 350, but it doesnt mean anyone will be at minimum, and even if they were they would have 50 cards on us.
Also, 240 is the exact number for 30 card decks for each of us... so we would have the build the vault the exact decks we will use?
I said the "average" minimum would be 350. So hypothetically a team could have 100 cards.
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*underworld logo*
Lemme help
(http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/2877/underworldyh.png)
ffff, crappy borders.
blank mark by Bloodshadow.
Good luck underworld, you better be ready :b
This is much better than what i did. Thank you :)
(mine really sucked -.-, but i simply wanted to put the idea on table, i kind of wanted someone like you to make a better one :P )
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ETA - okay did the math and actually the least amount of average number of cards each team will have at the start of round 5 will be 354.25 barring penalties. So actually you guys are in a bit of a hole. If you guys/gals weren't limited to max 3 copies of cards the decks you all could make would be pretty sick.
How did you do this math because mine is different? :) I might have made an error but here's what I got:
The average starting Vault size (assuming all Propaganda Topics are legit) is 446 cards.
A team that wins 5 and loses 4 duels during each of the first 4 rounds, will have a total of 306 cards in their Vault.
A team that wins 4 and loses 5 duels during each of the first 4 rounds, will have a total of 242 cards in their Vault.
Looking at those numbers, Team Underworld is basically a team that had a slightly below average performance (16 wins, 20 losses) during the first 4 rounds.
But there is more to this story. Here are the advantages Team Underworld has:
- other teams take penalties (especially the "no salvaging penalty for substituting), making the above numbers even smaller
- Team Underworld starts with a "fresh" Vault of 240 cards, as opposed to slightly "broken" Vaults of its opponents
- Team Underworld has a 4 rounds worth of intelligence on what cards the other teams have before they built their own Vault
- Team Underworld knows for a fact that at least 50% of the cards used by their opponents come from a specific element, while they themselves can use whatever cards they want
Their biggest disadvantage by far is the fact that they have to use 30 cards decks during their first round. I don't think they have any other major disadvantages which is why I think 240 is a good number. I'd rather give them too few cards than too many. After all, they are supposed to be the underdogs here, only able to win with tons of skill and tons of luck.
Feel free to point out if my numbers are false.
*underworld logo*
Lemme help
(http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/2877/underworldyh.png)
ffff, crappy borders.
blank mark by Bloodshadow.
Good luck underworld, you better be ready :b
We are actually going to have an art competition about this Team Underworld icon. I was supposed to start it last night but I couldn't find the blank mark graphics by Bloodshadow. If someone has the link, please give it to me so I don't have to go dig deeper. Thanks.
You should submit your suggestion to that competition, asymmetry. The community will vote for the winner, which will then be made the official Team Underworld icon that will be used in the event.
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Heh, I'm a huge fan of Haggard, and listening to one of their most epic songs "Awaking the Centuries" today, I realized it has most elements mentioned in there.
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Could be used as Underworld war song :)
Awaking the Centuries
In the books of what will be
Written by the demon lord?
Never lift your head up to the east
'cause darkness wakes the beast! :darkness
Der Kerzen Schein
[The candles' light :light
Er leuchtet fahl
[Is palely shining]
Als das Sonnenlicht er stahl
[When He stole the sunlight]
Und nur das grosse Himmelszelt
[And only the great sky's tent] :air
Bezeugt das Ende dieser Welt
[Is witness to the end of this world]
So feed the spark :aether
Welcome to the land of dark :darkness
Death in all the centuries is what I left behind :death :time
Take my hand
Forgotten in the promised land :earth
Death in all the centuries is what I left behind
The knowledge, brought to the world
Is growing with a bitter taste
In a dream I saw things that will be
Centuries away (obvious precog :)) )
Des Mondes Schein
[The moon's glow]
Er leuchtet fahl
[Is palely shining]
Das Herz der Finsternis er stahl
[He stole the Heart of Darkness]
Nun glei�end Lichte ihn umgibt
[Now glistening light surrounds him] :light
Und doch des Menschen Hoffnung siegt...?
[And so Man's hope prevails?]
So feed the spark
Welcome to the land of dark
Death in all the centuries is what I left behind
Take my hand
Forgotten in the promised land
Death in all the centuries is what I left behind
The night when evil steps out of the dark
And the cross is rising again
And fires are keeping the light :fire
Burn, my friend... (REVENGE on masters!)
And the sign of humanity is burning tonight
I can't escape from this ritual silence
Humanity's burning tonight
When I open my eyes
I see soldiers in the fields
Dead bodies on the ground
There are children inbetween
Explosions shock the land
And the evil shows its face
The one called Hister rises
This is the fall of grace...
Beast ferocious from hunger will swim across rivers (beast is obviously an Oty) :gravity :water
The greater part of the region will be against the Hister
The great one will cause it to be dragged in an iron cage
When the German child will observe nothing
In the books of what will be
Written by the demon lord?
Never lift your head up to the east
'cause darkness wakes the best!
Der Kerzen Schein
[The candle light]
Er leuchtet fahl
[Is palely shining]
Als das Sonnenlicht er stahl
[When He stole the sunlight]
Und nur das grosse Himmelszelt
[And only the great sky's tent]
Bezeugt das Ende dieser Welt
[Is witness to the end of this world]
So feed the spark
Welcome to the land of dark
Death in all the centuries is what I left behind
Take my hand
Forgotten in the promised land
Death in all the centuries is what I left behind
The knowledge, brought to the world
Is growing with a bitter taste
In a dream I saw things that will be
Centuries away
So feed the spark
Welcome to the land of dark
Death in all the centuries is what I left behind
Take my hand
Forgotten in the promised land
Death in all the centuries is what I left behind
And the sign of humanity is burning tonight
I can't escape from this ritual silence
Humanity's burning tonight
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Heh, I'm a huge fan of Haggard, and listening to one of their most epic songs "Awaking the Centuries" today, I realized it has most elements mentioned in there.
()
Could be used as Underworld war song :)
Awaking the Centuries
In the books of what will be
Written by the demon lord?
Never lift your head up to the east
'cause darkness wakes the beast! :darkness
Der Kerzen Schein
[The candles' light :light
Er leuchtet fahl
[Is palely shining]
Als das Sonnenlicht er stahl
[When He stole the sunlight]
Und nur das grosse Himmelszelt
[And only the great sky's tent] :air
Bezeugt das Ende dieser Welt
[Is witness to the end of this world]
So feed the spark :aether
Welcome to the land of dark :darkness
Death in all the centuries is what I left behind :death :time
Take my hand
Forgotten in the promised land :earth
Death in all the centuries is what I left behind
The knowledge, brought to the world
Is growing with a bitter taste
In a dream I saw things that will be
Centuries away (obvious precog :)) )
Des Mondes Schein
[The moon's glow]
Er leuchtet fahl
[Is palely shining]
Das Herz der Finsternis er stahl
[He stole the Heart of Darkness]
Nun glei�end Lichte ihn umgibt
[Now glistening light surrounds him] :light
Und doch des Menschen Hoffnung siegt...?
[And so Man's hope prevails?]
So feed the spark
Welcome to the land of dark
Death in all the centuries is what I left behind
Take my hand
Forgotten in the promised land
Death in all the centuries is what I left behind
The night when evil steps out of the dark
And the cross is rising again
And fires are keeping the light :fire
Burn, my friend... (REVENGE on masters!)
And the sign of humanity is burning tonight
I can't escape from this ritual silence
Humanity's burning tonight
When I open my eyes
I see soldiers in the fields
Dead bodies on the ground
There are children inbetween
Explosions shock the land
And the evil shows its face
The one called Hister rises
This is the fall of grace...
Beast ferocious from hunger will swim across rivers (beast is obviously an Oty) :gravity :water
The greater part of the region will be against the Hister
The great one will cause it to be dragged in an iron cage
When the German child will observe nothing
In the books of what will be
Written by the demon lord?
Never lift your head up to the east
'cause darkness wakes the best!
Der Kerzen Schein
[The candle light]
Er leuchtet fahl
[Is palely shining]
Als das Sonnenlicht er stahl
[When He stole the sunlight]
Und nur das grosse Himmelszelt
[And only the great sky's tent]
Bezeugt das Ende dieser Welt
[Is witness to the end of this world]
So feed the spark
Welcome to the land of dark
Death in all the centuries is what I left behind
Take my hand
Forgotten in the promised land
Death in all the centuries is what I left behind
The knowledge, brought to the world
Is growing with a bitter taste
In a dream I saw things that will be
Centuries away
So feed the spark
Welcome to the land of dark
Death in all the centuries is what I left behind
Take my hand
Forgotten in the promised land
Death in all the centuries is what I left behind
And the sign of humanity is burning tonight
I can't escape from this ritual silence
Humanity's burning tonight
i put the quote in a spoiler thing for people who dont wanna see it :)
i think you missed three:
"Des Mondes Schein
[The moon's glow]"
oh no its nightfall :O
"Explosions shock the land"
I'm sure Haggard means ---> "Explosions Deflags shock the land" :P
"Explosions Deflags shock the land"
deflag for PC shockwave for CC? :D
and one more thing i like the otyugh reference :)
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Interesting, I would like to be added to the list.
Alright.. never mind, I did not participate in the war auction.
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ETA - okay did the math and actually the least amount of average number of cards each team will have at the start of round 5 will be 354.25 barring penalties. So actually you guys are in a bit of a hole. If you guys/gals weren't limited to max 3 copies of cards the decks you all could make would be pretty sick.
How did you do this math because mine is different? :) I might have made an error but here's what I got:
The average starting Vault size (assuming all Propaganda Topics are legit) is 446 cards.
A team that wins 5 and loses 4 duels during each of the first 4 rounds, will have a total of 306 cards in their Vault.
A team that wins 4 and loses 5 duels during each of the first 4 rounds, will have a total of 242 cards in their Vault.
Looking at those numbers, Team Underworld is basically a team that had a slightly below average performance (16 wins, 20 losses) during the first 4 rounds.
But there is more to this story. Here are the advantages Team Underworld has:
- other teams take penalties (especially the "no salvaging penalty for substituting), making the above numbers even smaller
- Team Underworld starts with a "fresh" Vault of 240 cards, as opposed to slightly "broken" Vaults of its opponents
- Team Underworld has a 4 rounds worth of intelligence on what cards the other teams have before they built their own Vault
- Team Underworld knows for a fact that at least 50% of the cards used by their opponents come from a specific element, while they themselves can use whatever cards they want
Their biggest disadvantage by far is the fact that they have to use 30 cards decks during their first round. I don't think they have any other major disadvantages which is why I think 240 is a good number. I'd rather give them too few cards than too many. After all, they are supposed to be the underdogs here, only able to win with tons of skill and tons of luck.
Feel free to point out if my numbers are false.
Another major disadvantage is being to use a card only 3 times in a deck
and also, wouldnt it be possible to have just a little more cards than the minimum for 8 decks? because then for the cards in the vault will obligatedly be the 8 decks we use round 1, so we cant have any for decks we might want to build after? my thinking of it might be wrong, but thats how i see it ... how about more around 250-270?
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Heh, I'm a huge fan of Haggard, and listening to one of their most epic songs "Awaking the Centuries" today, I realized it has most elements mentioned in there.
()
Could be used as Underworld war song :)
Awaking the Centuries
In the books of what will be
Written by the demon lord?
Never lift your head up to the east
'cause darkness wakes the beast! :darkness
Der Kerzen Schein
[The candles' light :light
Er leuchtet fahl
[Is palely shining]
Als das Sonnenlicht er stahl
[When He stole the sunlight]
Und nur das grosse Himmelszelt
[And only the great sky's tent] :air
Bezeugt das Ende dieser Welt
[Is witness to the end of this world]
So feed the spark :aether
Welcome to the land of dark :darkness
Death in all the centuries is what I left behind :death :time
Take my hand
Forgotten in the promised land :earth
Death in all the centuries is what I left behind
The knowledge, brought to the world
Is growing with a bitter taste
In a dream I saw things that will be
Centuries away (obvious precog :)) )
Des Mondes Schein
[The moon's glow]
Er leuchtet fahl
[Is palely shining]
Das Herz der Finsternis er stahl
[He stole the Heart of Darkness]
Nun glei�end Lichte ihn umgibt
[Now glistening light surrounds him] :light
Und doch des Menschen Hoffnung siegt...?
[And so Man's hope prevails?]
So feed the spark
Welcome to the land of dark
Death in all the centuries is what I left behind
Take my hand
Forgotten in the promised land
Death in all the centuries is what I left behind
The night when evil steps out of the dark
And the cross is rising again
And fires are keeping the light :fire
Burn, my friend... (REVENGE on masters!)
And the sign of humanity is burning tonight
I can't escape from this ritual silence
Humanity's burning tonight
When I open my eyes
I see soldiers in the fields
Dead bodies on the ground
There are children inbetween
Explosions shock the land
And the evil shows its face
The one called Hister rises
This is the fall of grace...
Beast ferocious from hunger will swim across rivers (beast is obviously an Oty) :gravity :water
The greater part of the region will be against the Hister
The great one will cause it to be dragged in an iron cage
When the German child will observe nothing
In the books of what will be
Written by the demon lord?
Never lift your head up to the east
'cause darkness wakes the best!
Der Kerzen Schein
[The candle light]
Er leuchtet fahl
[Is palely shining]
Als das Sonnenlicht er stahl
[When He stole the sunlight]
Und nur das grosse Himmelszelt
[And only the great sky's tent]
Bezeugt das Ende dieser Welt
[Is witness to the end of this world]
So feed the spark
Welcome to the land of dark
Death in all the centuries is what I left behind
Take my hand
Forgotten in the promised land
Death in all the centuries is what I left behind
The knowledge, brought to the world
Is growing with a bitter taste
In a dream I saw things that will be
Centuries away
So feed the spark
Welcome to the land of dark
Death in all the centuries is what I left behind
Take my hand
Forgotten in the promised land
Death in all the centuries is what I left behind
And the sign of humanity is burning tonight
I can't escape from this ritual silence
Humanity's burning tonight
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your idea is great, im posting another one that could represent more *war-ish* than *element-ish*
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Hi.
One of the members in Team Gravity dropped out, and I need a replacement AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
The requirement is simple; you have posted in the war auction area and did not get chosen as a member.
Please post a brief statement here (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14288.0.html) about your commitment and the link for the post in the war auction area.
Remember: I'm not looking for scores or experiences, as long as the score is 1k or above. What I'm looking for is steady commitment to the team until the event ends, because we're going to win.
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hey, im outta this tourny cuz u placed me in team aether. (just noticed name wasnt removed yet).
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How did you do this math because mine is different? :) I might have made an error but here's what I got:
I immediately have an error here because i did not include Propaganda topics cards. So that would add 13.5 cards to the average to put it at 367.75.
The way i calculated the numbers was the following (i did this very quickly as well so i probably made an error somewhere). Basically round 1 will have 54 total matches. 12 teams fight 9 times and since they fight each other it's basically 9*6=54. Now i already one error. There will be 27 wins and 27 losses so with the salvage bonus of 6 and losses counting as 6 cards it's a net loss of 0 cards total. Instead of 27 i used 26 though so i screwed that up. So the actual average should have been 351.25 and 364.75 adjusted for propaganda bonuses.
Round 2 using the same amount of matches there will be a net loss of 162 cards. (27 losses*12- 27 wins*6)
Round 3 using the same amount of matches there will be a net loss of 324 cards. (27 losses*18- 27 wins*6)
Round 4 using the same amount of matches there will be a net loss of 486 cards. (27 losses*24- 27 wins*6)
Total lost cards=972
Total starting cards=5187 (without propaganda bonuses)
Avg cards per team=351.25
Now this won't be accurate because some teams will not be having 9 matches every round which actually increases the minimum average amount of cards. This really was just a baseline.
ETA - OUCH! i see my error. it's not 27 losses and 27 wins. It's 54. I will fix this.
The actual average number will be 270.25 and 283.75 with the propagada bonus. 240 cards for the Underworld definitely seems in line now. Thanks for catching that SG.
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I want to join a second time, so i can get my name up there twice.
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Will the positions of battle be randomized? or will we be battling in the order of signup
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How did you do this math because mine is different? :) I might have made an error but here's what I got:
I immediately have an error here because i did not include Propaganda topics cards. So that would add 13.5 cards to the average to put it at 367.75.
The way i calculated the numbers was the following (i did this very quickly as well so i probably made an error somewhere). Basically round 1 will have 54 total matches. 12 teams fight 9 times and since they fight each other it's basically 9*6=54. Now i already one error. There will be 27 wins and 27 losses so with the salvage bonus of 6 and losses counting as 6 cards it's a net loss of 0 cards total. Instead of 27 i used 26 though so i screwed that up. So the actual average should have been 351.25 and 364.75 adjusted for propaganda bonuses.
Round 2 using the same amount of matches there will be a net loss of 162 cards. (27 losses*12- 27 wins*6)
Round 3 using the same amount of matches there will be a net loss of 324 cards. (27 losses*18- 27 wins*6)
Round 4 using the same amount of matches there will be a net loss of 486 cards. (27 losses*24- 27 wins*6)
Total lost cards=972
Total starting cards=5187 (without propaganda bonuses)
Avg cards per team=351.25
Now this won't be accurate because some teams will not be having 9 matches every round which actually increases the minimum average amount of cards. This really was just a baseline.
ETA - OUCH! i see my error. it's not 27 losses and 27 wins. It's 54. I will fix this.
The actual average number will be 270.25 and 283.75 with the propagada bonus. 240 cards for the Underworld definitely seems in line now. Thanks for catching that SG.
Thanks for doing the exact numbers. Now we have the hard facts in case someone is interested about that 240 (for example when Team Underworld wins the whole event) :)
Will the positions of battle be randomized? or will we be battling in the order of signup
It's going to be random.
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Will the positions of battle be randomized? or will we be battling in the order of signup
It's going to be random.
But after the first match it won't be random, right? If players A,B,C,D,E,F,G, and H are competing, and B,D,F, and H lose, Will b play D and F play H or will the losers' Bracket be randomized upon play again?
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I know the time is up, but since there werent 64 sign ups, may I still join? pretty please? :-*
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Even though i really want to win, i will wish all of you good luck in this tournament, and hope everyone of you will make the efforts to make it to the last part, war.
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I know the time is up, but since there werent 64 sign ups, may I still join? pretty please? :-*
You do know I'm a boy, right?
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Will the positions of battle be randomized? or will we be battling in the order of signup
It's going to be random.
But after the first match it won't be random, right? If players A,B,C,D,E,F,G, and H are competing, and B,D,F, and H lose, Will b play D and F play H or will the losers' Bracket be randomized upon play again?
After the initial seeding, there won't be any randomness involved.
I know the time is up, but since there werent 64 sign ups, may I still join? pretty please? :-*
You got lucky because one spot just opened up. I added you to the brackets.
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Well, this sucks the event starts in 3 hours and i'll be gone :( good luck to people of the underworld :)