Event Cards (removed from the event)

[Sir Valimont]

In most cases in real life when you take actions like you did, you forfeit your right to participate in the community at all. You should realize that.

So are you saying i should forfeit my right to participate in this community? What are you trying to say and fight for at this point?

Of course I am not saying you should have your rights forfeit.

But I am not exaggerating. In literally almost every other context on the planet if you do something like this -- flagrantly take action against the authority -- you will be removed. I say that because some of you don't seem to realize how serious your actions were and why it is completely normal for SG and others to react this way. Like me for instance. I'm not a warmaster or a general or something but these actions were so extreme and uncalled for that I was compelled to write a harsh forum post about it.

I think it would help for future endeavors to realize why this was a wrong set of actions and why things should be handled differently. In most cases being banned from the event/community would be a pretty solid way to learn that lesson -- but we are, happily, not in a community that is going to do that, and that's wonderful for all of us because no one wants to see great people like yourself or others removed over this.

[Kurohami]

In real world, yes Mr. Blonde probably would be removed. But the authority will have to think of ways to frame him to remove him, they can't just remove him without plausible reasons. Like in this war, not using the advantage of an event card does not break any rules that is in effect and thus is not susceptible to being banned unless SG really wants to and finds other ways to accuse him an ban him, he shall not be banned. And these actions are not at all extreme, a extreme action in my opinion would be to quit the event or play with an entirely upgraded deck even though you are not allowed to do so. What Mr. Blonde did is pretty much the the most subtle protest that can still be recognized. As for being so compelled by Mr. Blonde's actions to write a harsh forum post, well, you seems to be the only one, not that there's anything wrong with that.

[Sir Valimont]

In real world, yes Mr. Blonde probably would be removed. But the authority will have to think of ways to frame him to remove him, they can't just remove him without plausible reasons.

What version of the real world are we talking about? Openly rejecting authority is legitimate grounds for removal in 99.9% of real world examples. No authority would ever be held to "come up with an excuse" for kicking someone out who incited a revolt.

[xdude]

In literally almost every other context on the planet if you do something like this -- flagrantly take action against the authority -- you will be removed.

I think you have to realize that this is just a video game. What I mean is that your "outrage" over an event that you think is unfair really cannot be compared to a civil-rights movement in real life.

Could you please decide whether we can or we can not use real-lie analogies, oh mighty one? Or perhaps there is an Event Card in place so that only people for Event Cards can use real life analogies?

[hrmmm]

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Openly rejecting authority is legitimate grounds for removal in 99.9% of real world examples. No authority would ever be held to "come up with an excuse" for kicking someone out who incited a revolt.

open opposition != breaking roules or even the law.
how this "removals" work in your country?
do you jail ppl who protest against your government or a trade union who strikes?

where i come from there it is the law: everything that is not forbidden (by the law) is allowed.

the card mrBlonde pointed to his action, allows to be not used.
so i dont see any broken rule of mrBlonde.

now talking about kicking someone out of the community seems extreme to me.
and honestly, i feel abit like feeding a troll now, Sir Valimont.

[kobisjeruk]

first of all, i didnt agree to any people's action against the issue (boycott)
i literally ask that the event card - Age of Light be remove from this round
and SG did so yay for me

BUT, boycott here means not using upgraded cards as suggested by MrBlonde

now tell me, where in the friggin rules says not using event cards' effect = breaking the rules?

Being a member of a community does not entitle you to break the community's rules if you feel necessary. Being a participant in an event does not entitle you to break the rules of the event if you feel necessary. In most cases in real life when you take actions like you did, you forfeit your right to participate in the community at all. You should realize that.

and secondly, community's rules? say what

p/s: still waiting approval on whether we can or cannot use real life analogies

[Kurohami]

In real world, yes Mr. Blonde probably would be removed. But the authority will have to think of ways to frame him to remove him, they can't just remove him without plausible reasons.

What version of the real world are we talking about? Openly rejecting authority is legitimate grounds for removal in 99.9% of real world examples. No authority would ever be held to "come up with an excuse" for kicking someone out who incited a revolt.

In any version of the real world where authorities obey their own rules. I know there are places where the authority breaks their own rules all the time, only citizens need to follow the rules, but I come from a country where the government follows its own rules so I thought it is pretty clear. And yes in my country, when people in the position of power needs to get rid of someone who did not break rules they come up with an excuse to do it, they can't just go to that person and tell him to get out. As citizens won't take that kindly.

[Sir Valimont]

In literally almost every other context on the planet if you do something like this -- flagrantly take action against the authority -- you will be removed.

I think you have to realize that this is just a video game. What I mean is that your "outrage" over an event that you think is unfair really cannot be compared to a civil-rights movement in real life.

Could you please decide whether we can or we can not use real-life analogies, oh mighty one? Or perhaps there is an Event Card in place so that only people for Event Cards can use real life analogies?

haha

It's a matter of appropriateness. I think it's appropriate to tell someone their expectations of not being removed after causing a revolt are off. When you make a statement like that, it's important to have context ... which is why I made the first comment quoted above.

As for civil rights, it could not be less appropriate to talk about Rosa Parks when talking about Elements War event cards. I'm pretty sure if you think about it you will agree with this obvious view.

[Sir Valimont]

now talking about kicking someone out of the community seems extreme to me.

I would never advocate such a thing. However it is useful for people to realize how serious an offense it is to create a revolt.

[xdude]

p/s: still waiting approval on whether we can or cannot use real life analogies

I'd say we can't, but he can.

With this said, I want to start a boycott over this. Considering how oh-the-mighty-one is obviously always right, I choose not to use my right of arguing with him ever again. Unless oh-the-mighty-one considers that by doing this I broken the principles of democracy and I should get hanged 'cause he says so. Which is obviously OK.

[Kuross]

As for civil rights, it could not be less appropriate to talk about Rosa Parks when talking about Elements War event cards. I'm pretty sure if you think about it you will agree with this obvious view.

The level of an example doesn't necessarily negate the point of the example. To say boycotting agasint an established aurthority is wrong is a statement, that in order to be accepted, must be applied to all examples it applies to. You saying that people boycotting in a game against a rule people felt was unbalanced is the same as saying Rosa Parks was wrong for boycotting an estblished rule by authority that blacks had to sit in an estblished area on a bus. Seperating the instances in both examples leaves the same result. You argue that it is wrong to boycott authority. We disagree.

[Sir Valimont]

p/s: still waiting approval on whether we can or cannot use real life analogies

I'd say we can't, but he can.

With this said, I want to start a boycott over this. Considering how oh-the-mighty-one is obviously always right, I choose not to use my right of arguing with him ever again. Unless oh-the-mighty-one considers that by doing this I broken the principles of democracy and I should get hanged 'cause he says so. Which is obviously OK.

I have no quarrel with you in particular xdude. I'm surprised that you have responded to my posts this way, but there's not much I can do about that. I will respond if you engage on this issue. If not, then not.