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Re: Auction Overtime! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23053.msg294356#msg294356
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2011, 01:02:52 am »
Question 1: The overtime is to "break ties" at the lower bid levels or this still active for all players(disregarding 24 bids of course)? For the given example, (...),EngPhys, Stickmasterlke, and UTAlan are waiting for more bids?
The overtime is a way to avoid bidding at the last 2 seconds just to keep a player without having to risk someone bidding higher. But for some reason, the whole auction goes on, instead of just that last bidders...

Question 2: Let's take the scenario that all the masters formed a pact to stop bidding.
I understand the last 4 on the list would then be selected by Higurashi?
The ones who are tied in the last places of the bids are up to the general to be chosen. It's in the War rules.

Question 3: From seeing another "overtime 4" displayed on the first page does that mean there can be "infinite"? amount of overtime bids? Or is there usually a set limit? (in other words what triggers the "stopping point" to which masters cannot bid and selections for tied bids begins?)
Well, at some point, all the generals will have to bid 24 cards, and at some other point, all players will have 12 "24 cards" bids, so at that point, the auction will be definetly over :P

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Re: Auction Overtime! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23053.msg294379#msg294379
« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2011, 01:18:15 am »
Masters can pick players if they have equal bids on them at the end of bidding. They're not forced to add bids.

Also, closing bidding on players who haven't been bid on for 24 hours means that you punish masters who lose a bidding war, since they cannot go back and select other players to replace the one that they lost on.

Re: Auction Overtime! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23053.msg294402#msg294402
« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2011, 01:50:31 am »
Question: How is that problem resolved? I.e. you do have a tie with the last 4 players. and none of them (at 1 bid each) are "higher than the others"?

Thank you again geekz_always_win.
The general will choose which 7 he wants on his team out of the 9. He only has extras because he wants to play it safe, in case people steal one of his, he still has others to rely on instead of having to fork over 24 for a player that he could have gotten a lower price for..

So to answer, the master would choose his 7 and leave the other 2 people out. No tie breaks are needed, as the general gets to form his own team, he shouldn't have to receive the ones he bid higher on (although that would obviously make sense)

When no more bids are made for one day, then overtime will cease and the war will begin.  :)

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Re: Auction Overtime! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23053.msg294403#msg294403
« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2011, 01:51:40 am »
Well, at some point, all the generals will have to bid 24 cards, and at some other point, all players will have 12 "24 cards" bids, so at that point, the auction will be definetly over :P
HOLY!!!

You're saying that the tie breaker must be decided in the early overtime rounds, or else if the master waits on the last overtime bid (at forced 24 cards) a player is then forced to have 24 bids at the end if tie breaker for one lucky person in that set of 4 tie breakers?

Question (yet again):

So what you're saying is, we keep going until there is CLEARLY 7 players for each team?

or it goes on and on until we reach 24 raise bid on overtime?
And Krathos is trolling/joking. We go on until the overtimes end; there have been no bids for 24 hours. If it goes to having everyone bid until 24, then so be it. (though most masters are sane and are not going to burn 24*7=168 cards before starting)

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Re: Auction Overtime! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23053.msg294414#msg294414
« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2011, 02:04:31 am »
And Krathos is trolling/joking. We go on until the overtimes end; there have been no bids for 24 hours. If it goes to having everyone bid until 24, then so be it. (though most masters are sane and are not going to burn 24*7=168 cards before starting)
Sorry for the misunderstanding, I was pointing out the most extreme (and unlikely) case.

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Re: Auction Overtime! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23053.msg294422#msg294422
« Reply #17 on: March 20, 2011, 02:12:01 am »
generals please stop bidding i want to see the new war teams already

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Re: Auction Overtime! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23053.msg294460#msg294460
« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2011, 03:16:42 am »
Overtime contiues until all parties are happy with the result.

IE Going once, Going Twice, Sold => An overtime has passed without a Master making a bid.



If a team has 9 candidates and only 7 slots the Master will have to choose to cast off 2 of the lowest bids to make the team an even 7. This is the only time a master is allowed to revoke bids.

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Re: Auction Overtime! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23053.msg295437#msg295437
« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2011, 03:02:31 pm »
what if a player is tied for 7th in bids for a team but isn't selected. For instance gavsword has a bid of 4 from fire, but isn't selected. Would he then go to team aether (next highest bidder) at a cost of 2 cards, 4 cards, or go to underworld?

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Re: Auction Overtime! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23053.msg295439#msg295439
« Reply #20 on: March 21, 2011, 03:08:01 pm »
first he would go to team aether and be run through their highest 7 ranking if he is in top 7 he is aether if he is not top 7 he goes down to the one who voted 1 and sees there if he is top 7 if not then he goes to underworld.

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Re: Auction Overtime! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23053.msg295463#msg295463
« Reply #21 on: March 21, 2011, 04:31:16 pm »
first he would go to team aether and be run through their highest 7 ranking if he is in top 7 he is aether if he is not top 7 he goes down to the one who voted 1 and sees there if he is top 7 if not then he goes to underworld.
Wait, what? That would lead to some long stuff before the team is decided... I thought once one team bids higher the other bids just dissapear. I mean, if Team X doesn't choose Player Y, then he goes directly to Underworld, since the other bids dissapeared.

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Re: Auction Overtime! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23053.msg295476#msg295476
« Reply #22 on: March 21, 2011, 05:05:44 pm »
first he would go to team aether and be run through their highest 7 ranking if he is in top 7 he is aether if he is not top 7 he goes down to the one who voted 1 and sees there if he is top 7 if not then he goes to underworld.
Wait, what? That would lead to some long stuff before the team is decided... I thought once one team bids higher the other bids just dissapear. I mean, if Team X doesn't choose Player Y, then he goes directly to Underworld, since the other bids dissapeared.
Indrejue is correct. For the example put by deuce22, gavsword will go to team aether (next highest bidder) at a cost of 2 cards. But if he is not in the top 7, he will get the chance in the underworld.

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For example lets say I had made the following bids:
Player A - 9 cards (highest bidder)
Player B - 8 cards (3rd highest bidder)
Player C - 8 cards (highest bidder)
Player D - 7 cards (highest bidder)
Player E - 6 cards (highest bidder)
Player F - 6 cards (2nd highest bidder)
Player G - 4 cards (highest bidder)
Player H - 3 cards (highest bidder)
Player K - 2 cards (highest bidder)
Player L - 2 cards (highest bidder)
Player M - 2 cards (highest bidder)

I would first win players A, C, D, E, G, and H because they are my highest bids. I could then pick one from players K L and M because I bid the same amount on all of them. Lets say I pick would player K. My bids for players L and M would then disappear like they never even existed, making the persons who bid 1 card on Players L and M, the highest bidders.

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Re: Auction Overtime! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23053.msg295480#msg295480
« Reply #23 on: March 21, 2011, 05:15:47 pm »
thanks for the clarification suxerz

 

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