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Application form for War #2 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12361.msg154411#msg154411
« on: September 08, 2010, 11:09:22 am »
How To Join War As a Slave

Copy to code below, and paste it in a new topic in Slave Market (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/board,225.0.html) section. Title of your topic should be your forum username. You can make changes to your application at any time.

Later, Generals will start bidding on players. You can post on your own application topic, convincing the Generals to bid on you, but please avoid spamming.

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[size=36pt][i][font=georgia][b]Buy A Slave[/b][/font][/i][/size]   [size=8pt]Please replace all the "***" with correct information.[/size]

[table][tr][td][table]
[tr]
[td][b]Forum Name[/b][/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
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[td][b]Chat Name[/b][/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
[tr]
[td][b]In-Game Name[/b][/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
[tr]
[td][b]Score[/b][/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
[tr]
[td][b]Electrum[/b][/td][td]***[/td]
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[table]
[tr]
[td][url=http://whatismytimezone.com/][b]Timezone[/b][/url] (GMT)[/td][td]GMT ***[/td][/tr]
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[td][b]Usually Online[/b] (GMT)[/td][td][size=8pt]From[/size] GMT *** [size=8pt]to[/size] GMT ***[/td][/tr]
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[/td][td]
[table]
[tr]
[td][b]Favorite elements[/b][/td][td] [/td][/tr]
[tr]
[td]1st[/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
[tr]
[td]2nd[/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
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[td]3rd[/td][td]***[/td]
[/tr]
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[table]
[tr]
[td][b]Preferred roles[/b][/td][td] [/td][/tr]
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[td]1st[/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
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[td]2nd[/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
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[td]3rd[/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
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[tr]
[td][table]
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[td][b][size=8pt]Non-Upgraded cards[/size][/b][/td][td][/td][/tr]
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[td]:aether Aether        [/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
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[td]:air Air                     [/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
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[td]:darkness Darkness[/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
[tr]
[td]:death Death           [/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
[tr]
[td]:earth Earth             [/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
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[td]:entropy Entropy      [/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
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[td]:fire Fire                    [/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
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[td]:gravity Gravity         [/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
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[td]:life Life                     [/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
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[td]:light Light                [/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
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[td]:time Time                 [/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
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[td]:water Water            [/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
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[td]     Other                   [/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
[/table][/td]
[td][table]
[tr]
[td][b][size=8pt]Upgraded cards        [/size][/b][/td][td][/td][/tr]
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[td]:aether Aether        [/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
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[td]:air Air                     [/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
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[td]:darkness Darkness[/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
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[td]:death Death           [/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
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[td]:earth Earth             [/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
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[td]:entropy Entropy      [/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
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[td]:fire Fire                    [/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
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[td]:gravity Gravity         [/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
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[td]:life Life                     [/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
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[td]:light Light                 [/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
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[td]:time Time                 [/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
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[td]:water Water            [/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
[tr]
[td]     Other                   [/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
[/table][/td]
[td][table]
[tr]
[td][b][size=8pt]Non-Upgraded Rares[/size][/b][/td][td] [/td][/tr]
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[td] :entropy Discord      [/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
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[td] :death Arsenic          [/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
[tr]
[td] :gravity Titan            [/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
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[td] :earth Pulverizer       [/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
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[td] :life Druidic Staff        [/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
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[td]:fire Fahrenheit           [/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
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[td]:water Trident             [/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
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[td]:water Arctic Squid      [/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
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[td]:light Morning Star       [/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
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[td]:light Miracle                 [/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
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[td]:air Owl's Eye               [/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
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[td]:time Eternity                [/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
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[td]:time Pharaoh               [/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
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[td]:darkness Vampire Stiletto[/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
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[td]:aether Lobotomizer     [/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
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[td][table]
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[td][b][size=8pt]Non-Upgraded Nymphs[/size][/b][/td][td][/td][/tr]
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[td]:aether Aether        [/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
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[td]:air Air                     [/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
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[td]:darkness Darkness[/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
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[td]:death Death           [/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
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[td]:earth Earth             [/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
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[td]:entropy Entropy      [/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
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[td]:fire Fire                    [/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
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[td]:gravity Gravity         [/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
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[td]:life Life                     [/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
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[td]:light Light                 [/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
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[td]:time Time                 [/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
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[td]:water Water            [/td][td]***[/td][/tr]
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[td][b]Why I would make a good War team member                                                             [/b][/td][/tr]
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[td]***[/td]
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EXAMPLE

Buy A Slave   Please replace all the "***" with correct information.

Insert basic information about your game, forum and chat accounts. You can only use ONE game account for this event. Score and Electrum can be edited as you gain more of them.
Forum NameBillyBob
Chat NameBill321
In-Game NameBob
Score32844
Electrum2361
Please enter your timezone in GMT. Enter "Usually Online" also in GMT. For example, if your timezone is GMT+4, and you are usually online from 16 to 19, your "Usually Online" would be "from GMT 12 to GMT 15".
Timezone (http://whatismytimezone.com/) (GMT)GMT +4
Usually Online (GMT)From GMT 12 to GMT 15
Favorite elements
List for up to 3 favorite elements. You can leave these blank if you want.
1st:time
2nd:fire
3rd:air
Preferred roles
List your preferred team role(s) as explained in War Rules (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13006.0.html). You can also leave these blank.
1stVault Organizer
2ndSalvager
3rdDeckbuilder
Non-Upgraded cards
:aether Aether        12
:air Air                     22
:darkness Darkness3
:death Death           0
:earth Earth             0
:entropy Entropy      15
:fire Fire                    8
:gravity Gravity         12
:life Life                     16
:light Light                0
:time Time                 34
:water Water            2
     Other                   45
Upgraded cards       
:aether Aether        0
:air Air                     6
:darkness Darkness0
:death Death           0
:earth Earth             3
:entropy Entropy      0
:fire Fire                    0
:gravity Gravity         12
:life Life                     0
:light Light                 0
:time Time                 3
:water Water            6
     Other                   1
Non-Upgraded Rares
:entropy Discord      0
:death Arsenic          0
:gravity Titan            0
:earth Pulverizer       0
:life Druidic Staff        2
:fire Fahrenheit           0
:water Trident             0
:water Arctic Squid      0
:light Morning Star       0
:light Miracle                 0
:air Owl's Eye               0
:time Eternity                1
:time Pharaoh               0
:darkness Vampire Stiletto0
:aether Lobotomizer     0
Non-Upgraded Nymphs
:aether Aether        0
:air Air                     0
:darkness Darkness1
:death Death           0
:earth Earth             0
:entropy Entropy      0
:fire Fire                    1
:gravity Gravity         0
:life Life                     0
:light Light                 0
:time Time                 0
:water Water            1
Why I would make a good War team member                                                             
Give further details on why you should be picked. There is no word limit, but it's probably best to keep it short and sweet.
I am a very active player. I visit the forums and chat every day. I think War is very interesting and I would love to join bla bla, etc. etc.
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Re: Application form for War #2 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12361.msg161007#msg161007
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2010, 06:25:43 am »
See something missing that you'd like to be included?

Post feedback here.
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Re: Application form for War #2 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12361.msg161069#msg161069
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2010, 10:36:56 am »
If upped cards are going to be included with event cards, of course a list of upgraded cards.

Like:

Number of Upped cards
:entropy***
:death***
:gravity***
:earth***
:life***
:fire***
:water***
:light***
:air***
:time***
:darkness***
:aether***
This way, master can decide to bid on people's loyaly to one element, because having a lot of cards in one element means obviously that that player plays that element a lot.

And, I think you need to add a excluded elements table for mercenaries.
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Re: Application form for War #2 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12361.msg161087#msg161087
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2010, 11:24:10 am »
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This way, master can decide to bid on people's loyaly to one element, because having a lot of cards in one element means obviously that that player plays that element a lot.
i have to disagree
most people play a certain type of deck, this is true but you cant generalize "dude play these elements a lot, ergo he must like them a lot more than others"
IF i play AI3 a lot using earth-based rush decks, obviously i have more upgraded earth cards than other
but does it means i like earth more > rest? not necessarily

some people (not the majority of course) have no problem upgrading any cards due to vast collection gathered grinding FGs but i dont even understand why upgraded cards in ones collection should come in question because last i know, only masters are allowed to use upgraded cards (maybe they change the rules for War #2, i dont know)
anyway, upgraded cards shouldnt even be included because it make no difference imo
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Re: Application form for War #2 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12361.msg161090#msg161090
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2010, 11:53:57 am »
Quote from: kobisjeruk on September 19, 2010, 11:24:10 am
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This way, master can decide to bid on people's loyaly to one element, because having a lot of cards in one element means obviously that that player plays that element a lot.
i have to disagree
most people play a certain type of deck, this is true but you cant generalize "dude play these elements a lot, ergo he must like them a lot more than others"
IF i play AI3 a lot using earth-based rush decks, obviously i have more upgraded earth cards than other
but does it means i like earth more > rest? not necessarily

some people (not the majority of course) have no problem upgrading any cards due to vast collection gathered grinding FGs but i dont even understand why upgraded cards in ones collection should come in question because last i know, only masters are allowed to use upgraded cards (maybe they change the rules for War #2, i dont know)
anyway, upgraded cards shouldnt even be included because it make no difference imo
Well, I disagree, having a completely upgraded deck in one element, means you play that element a lot, meaning you will have a lot of experience. That doesn't make you like that element, but experience is something masters want to bid on.

And for the second, there might be event cards allowing normal players to use upgraded cards.
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Re: Application form for War #2 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12361.msg161106#msg161106
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2010, 12:45:06 pm »
I agree with The dictator. Number of upped cards is useful information because it tells a bit about what elements a player likes to play. Also some Event Cards might enable all the players use upped cards.

I think we'll add it.
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Re: Application form for War #2 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12361.msg161132#msg161132
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2010, 02:06:20 pm »
Feel free to use as little or as much as you'd like. I've made a complete application form with all ideas presented and placed them in an organized fashion.

Elemental's Information
Forum Name***
Chat Name***
In-Game Name***
Score***
Electrum***
Timezone (http://whatismytimezone.com/) (GMT)GMT ***
Usually Online (GMT)From GTM *** to GMT ***
Favorite elements
1st***
2nd***
3rd***
Presentation and Requests
Preferred team member roles
1st***
2nd***
3rd***
Why I should be chosen
(max 300 words)		***
Card Inventory
Number of Unupped Rares
:entropy Discord***
:death Arsenic***
:gravity Titan***
:earth Pulverizer***
:life Druidic Staff***
:fire Fahrenheit***
:water Trident***
:water Arctic Squid***
:light Morning Star***
:light Miracle***
:air Owl's Eye***
:time Eternity***
:time Pharoah***
:darkness Vampire Stiletto***
:aether Lobotomizer***
Unupped Nymphs (specify)***
Unupped Marks (specify)***
Number of Upped cards
Other ***
:entropy Entropy***
:death Death***
:gravity Gravity***
:earth Earth***
:life Life***
:fire Fire***
:water Water***
:light Light***
:air Air***
:time Time***
:darkness Darkness***
:aether Aether***
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Re: Application form for War #2 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12361.msg161220#msg161220
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2010, 04:47:04 pm »
Small suggestion: shouldn't there be a table for 'least-liked' elements or banned elements in case you're a Mercenary? Perhaps I didn't see it, but there should be a table where you're indicated as either a Loyalist, Mercenary, or Slave, and then given an additional 3-element table that reflects your position in the war bidding section.
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Re: Application form for War #2 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12361.msg161223#msg161223
« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2010, 04:53:08 pm »
The number of marks shouldn't count, should it?  I doubt teams will actually include marks in their vault.
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Re: Application form for War #2 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12361.msg161228#msg161228
« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2010, 04:56:51 pm »
Quote from: Hyroen on September 19, 2010, 02:06:20 pm
Feel free to use as little or as much as you'd like. I've made a complete application form with all ideas presented and placed them in an organized fashion.
Yeah, I'm going to do something like that once we get all the required pieces of data there. I'll try to make it even more compact and use less vertical scrolling so that you could see all the data on one "page". Maybe I'll use something you did here. Thanks.


Quote from: Kuroaitou on September 19, 2010, 04:47:04 pm
Small suggestion: shouldn't there be a table for 'least-liked' elements or banned elements in case you're a Mercenary? Perhaps I didn't see it, but there should be a table where you're indicated as either a Loyalist, Mercenary, or Slave, and then given an additional 3-element table that reflects your position in the war bidding section.
Yes. The application form for each three roles is actually different. All three have this "Favorite Elements" thing listed here, but Loyalist and Mercenary will have the additional tables as well.
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Re: Application form for War #2 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12361.msg161239#msg161239
« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2010, 05:17:21 pm »
Quote from: Dragoon1140 on September 19, 2010, 04:53:08 pm
The number of marks shouldn't count, should it?  I doubt teams will actually include marks in their vault.
They included marks in the first war IIRC.

Including upped cards is a good idea.  When bidding Masters need as much information as possible.  If someone has 0 upped Earth cards and maybe 30 unupped, its a good indication they are probably not experienced with Earth and should be passed over.
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Re: Application form for War #2 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12361.msg161637#msg161637
« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2010, 08:18:47 am »
maybe you guys arent seeing what i see
i'm thinking way ahead here so putting it in words is a bit hard

let say i put down a resume as a Loyalist with something like this:-

Favorite elements
1st:darkness
2nd:fire
3rd:entropy
with data on upped cards :-

Number of Upped cards
Other 41
:entropy Entropy39
:death Death30
:gravity Gravity34
:earth Earth28
:life Life50
:fire Fire49
:water Water40
:light Light29
:air Air40
:time Time40
:darkness Darkness42
:aether Aether49
what does that tell you? going by #ofUppedCards == experience OR #ofUppedCards == preference
it tells you that i 'should' prefer life/fire/aether instead? so you'll conclude that i dont have enough experience with elements that i actually prefer or i need to 'tweak' my #ofUppedCards to match my preference? (you wouldnt know the difference since you dont have access to my account anyway, and i can practically upgrade any cards if the need arise)
oh, if you dont think people will 'cheat' to make their resume look good, maybe you're being too optimistic

my point is, putting weight on number of upped cards is just ridiculous

A: "oh, he likes entropy/fire/darkness but he has more cards in life/aether, 'sup?"
B: "maybe he grind FGs a lot and win a lot more life/aether cards. nah, thats not possible, right?"
C: "hes not good for entropy/darkness because he doesnt have enough experience, lets find someone else"

laugh out loud
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