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Re: Air needs 3 more players!!! (and possibly a new leader) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7119.msg77363#msg77363
« Reply #24 on: May 29, 2010, 04:55:48 pm »
Well if acelink doesn't reappear then i will take his place as leader (airframe and me agreed on this). Does that mean i will have to recruit some more people?

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Re: Air needs 3 more players!!! (and possibly a new leader) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7119.msg77434#msg77434
« Reply #25 on: May 29, 2010, 06:24:05 pm »
So let me get this straight... our former Master of Air ditched his "favorite" element for Water of all things, and the current master doesn't even want his job after less than a week. Simply amazing. Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you... the worst Element. :P
Without air we have no animate weapon,we would lose our best creature control card in the game[owls eye],we wouldn't have firefly queen[that deals a blow to rainbows,and come to think of it so would owls eye mabey not a big one but still a blow to rainbows],fog sheild cheap and only 10% less than dusk mantle,unstable gas deals good damage and has minor creature control,thunder storm like a cheaper weaker version of rain of fire[rof costs 7 :fire for 3 damage to all creatures], thunder storm deals 1 damage to all creatures for 2 :air so with 3 thunderstorms it only costs 6 quanta do do the same damage,shock wave all you need to do is freeze a creature and you can instantly kill it.So there you have a few good reasons why air isn't the worst element.

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Re: Air needs 3 more players!!! (and possibly a new leader) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7119.msg77477#msg77477
« Reply #26 on: May 29, 2010, 07:24:30 pm »
So let me get this straight... our former Master of Air ditched his "favorite" element for Water of all things, and the current master doesn't even want his job after less than a week. Simply amazing. Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you... the worst Element. :P
*does a soft golf clap*

I think the problem is that :air 's popularity wasn't really shown (see my poll), which is why it's such an underrepresented element in the game (except for the weapon, FFQ, and Flying Weapon).

not cool [shakeshead]not cool.

Without air we would have no animate weapon,we would lose our best creature control card in the game[owls eye],we wouldn't have firefly queen[that deals a blow to rainbows,and come to think of it so would owls eye mabey not a big one but still a blow to rainbows],fog sheild cheap and only 10% less than dusk mantle,unstable gas deals good damage and has minor creature control,thunder storm like a cheaper weaker version of rain of fire[rof costs 7 :fire for 3 damage to all creatures], thunder storm deals 1 damage to all creatures for 2 :air so with 3 thunderstorms it only costs 6 quanta do do the same damage,shock wave all you need to do is freeze a creature and you can instantly kill it.So there you have a few good reasons why air isn't the worst element.
Animate Weapon - notice how the UPGRADED version doesn't even require :air quanta. That's just a slap in the face to air.
Owl's Eye - For killing creatures? Definitely. But an Eternity can do the exact same thing as true creature control, and can be used to deny even False Gods the opportunity to do anything resourceful if there are two Eternities on the field (with an Animate Weapon, again, without using :air quanta)
Fog Shield - I had an argument with Xinef about this one, but I agree it's fairly good and cheap. Too bad it's not completely dependable compared to say, Permafrost Shield or Bone Wall.
Thunder Storm - unless you spam them, they're not effective as creature control unless you're facing a RoL + Fractal + Hope deck
Shockwave - Requires synergy with :water to be super effective
Unstable Gas - Defeated by any spell-reflective shield, and the only permanent of the alchemy cards (which means it can be stolen or destroyed)

...Firefly Queen - Okay, gotta give this one to you. ;)

All in all, Air does have some good cards, but that doesn't mean that its current skills are as strong as others. Air may not be abysmal to play in a deck (whether it'd be mono, duo, trio, or even as part of a rainbow), but currently in my opinion (and according to Yala's poll), it's not a strong element when faced with other cards, and has various counters. It's the 'worst' in that sense, but know that I don't hate :air, I'm just disappointed with its current options (until Zanz busts out some magical goddess card that piques my interest again in :air).

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Re: Air needs 3 more players!!! (and possibly a new leader) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7119.msg77479#msg77479
« Reply #27 on: May 29, 2010, 07:26:33 pm »
Anyone who thinks Air sucks, check this out: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?action=pages

Enough said.

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Re: Air needs 3 more players!!! (and possibly a new leader) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7119.msg77484#msg77484
« Reply #28 on: May 29, 2010, 07:32:15 pm »
Anyone who thinks Air sucks, check this out: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?action=pages

Enough said.
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That's water. ^^;  :water

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Re: Air needs 3 more players!!! (and possibly a new leader) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7119.msg77489#msg77489
« Reply #29 on: May 29, 2010, 07:36:26 pm »
Anyone who thinks Air sucks, check this out: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?action=pages

Enough said.
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That's water. ^^;  :water
Haha.. wow.. fail.

I'd really like to abuse my mod powers now.

It's was the steam that confused me. :)

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Re: Air needs 3 more players!!! (and possibly a new leader) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7119.msg77491#msg77491
« Reply #30 on: May 29, 2010, 07:37:42 pm »
Anyone who thinks Air sucks, check this out: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?action=pages

Enough said.
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That's water. ^^;  :water
You beat me to it. :)

Also, to anyone assuming that I believe that Air is the worst element, I assure you it's just a joke. I actually think Air is really strong, but it is by far the least popular element, as illustrated by the lack of support in any kind of event, especially in this war.

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Re: Air needs 3 more players!!! (and possibly a new leader) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7119.msg77496#msg77496
« Reply #31 on: May 29, 2010, 07:42:38 pm »
Yeah, the steam confused me, too. We need a cool new air card (or several cool new air cards) or buffs of them to get people to go Air.

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Re: Air needs 3 more players!!! (and possibly a new leader) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7119.msg77536#msg77536
« Reply #32 on: May 29, 2010, 08:24:08 pm »
Steam Machine?  We should petition zanz to change it to an air card.  Steam is hot air.  Plus it'd have synergy with Unstable Gas.

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Re: Air needs 3 more players!!! (and possibly a new leader) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7119.msg77545#msg77545
« Reply #33 on: May 29, 2010, 08:32:19 pm »
Steam Machine?  We should petition zanz to change it to an air card.  Steam is hot air.  Plus it'd have synergy with Unstable Gas.
Actually, steam is the VAPORIZED version of liquid water - meaning that it starts off as water ( :water), then by adding extreme heat to it ( :fire), you create steam by boiling water to that form.

Although, I wouldn't be angry or anything if Zanz did change it - but I know a lot of water users will be sad if it was converted to a different element at last minute (especially one with excessive synergy [ :fire/ :air]).

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Re: Air needs 3 more players!!! (and possibly a new leader) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7119.msg77604#msg77604
« Reply #34 on: May 29, 2010, 09:32:55 pm »
the only reason i went with water is because essence has a sense of pride in his element. i still havent seen any hint of pride in air from ace. i cant fight for someone who doesnt believe in his element. air is my favorite element, but i refuse to stand behind a ruler with no commitment. im not saying all this is true of ace, but he has shone nothing to prove it wrong yet.
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Re: Air needs 3 more players!!! (and possibly a new leader) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7119.msg77737#msg77737
« Reply #35 on: May 30, 2010, 12:15:39 am »
I'd be happy to allow Unit to become Master of Air again, if that's what's being offered. 

I've already asked Kael Hate to stand with team :water once, so if he's willing to step up, I'd be happy to have him in Unit's place.


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