Money Management

[gumbeh]

I understood most of this intuitively, but I never thought about the "you might win it later" part for upped cards. I upgrade way too aggressively.

I just now reached a new personal record of 14,000 electrum, but only because WAR is coming up and I want to have upgrade versatility. Were it not for that, I'd probably have spent it all on upgrades I don't need for decks that I want to "try out".

Thanks kevkev.

[adrix89]

My rule of thumb for upped is if it's not a rare or part of a upped FG deck then you can sell it if you want to upgrade a card.
As for unupped if you already can farm gods there is no point.

[TribalTrouble]

As for unupped if you already can farm gods there is no point.

There is a point to unupped. Unupped cards allows you to enter more tournaments and PvP events than someone with 1 of every upped card but 0 of every unupped. He has to waste electrum by selling 2-3 of his upped cards just to buy a single deck of unupped while you already have unupped cards and have the electrum to pay to up the cards as well.

[adrix89]

I meant as selling unupped cards.
Also I don't see a problem in selling some upped cards to make a deck, it broadens your options even if its not optimized like upped ones.

[Gately]

Please note that it has historically been very important to get a fully upped AI3/t50 grinder and a fully upped FG Grinder.  To reach these goals you probably shouldn’t feel bad about selling currently useless upgrades to up cards and make the decks you grind with more effective.  After that point, though, you enter a wealth accumulation phase.

Question on this: I just re-read it for the hundredth time and realized the rules of thumb don't apply until AFTER you get your fully upped AI3 deck and FG deck. Okay, that makes sense. But in the next sentence, what does "currently useless upgrades" mean? I just won my first upped card from AI4. Does it mean that if it's not useful in the AI3 and FG decks I'm working toward I should sell it? What about the 150 *unupped* cards I've won so far? Keep or sell? (Assuming they are not in the decks I'm working toward)?

Could someone please clarify this for me? (And yes, I've read through the whole thread and I still don't understand. Must be a little dense today, sorry.)

D Gately

[The_Mormegil]

Please note that it has historically been very important to get a fully upped AI3/t50 grinder and a fully upped FG Grinder.  To reach these goals you probably shouldn’t feel bad about selling currently useless upgrades to up cards and make the decks you grind with more effective.  After that point, though, you enter a wealth accumulation phase.

Question on this: I just re-read it for the hundredth time and realized the rules of thumb don't apply until AFTER you get your fully upped AI3 deck and FG deck. Okay, that makes sense. But in the next sentence, what does "currently useless upgrades" mean? I just won my first upped card from AI4. Does it mean that if it's not useful in the AI3 and FG decks I'm working toward I should sell it? What about the 150 *unupped* cards I've won so far? Keep or sell? (Assuming they are not in the decks I'm working toward)?

Could someone please clarify this for me? (And yes, I've read through the whole thread and I still don't understand. Must be a little dense today, sorry.)

D Gately

Generally speaking, if you have an unupped AI3 farmer - which you won't ever sell - and an upped FG grinder - which again you shouldn't ever sell - you're going to rack up so much money in so little time that the rest of the guide will be more useful. The AI3 farmer is to get the money for the FG grinder and, more importantly, the money to start grinding (at first you'll lose even with the best grinders, since you don't know how to play it, and don't know your enemies: it's inevitable, and the AI3 farmer is there to provide the necessary backup for initial bankrupts).

[Sevs]

Please note that it has historically been very important to get a fully upped AI3/t50 grinder and a fully upped FG Grinder.  To reach these goals you probably shouldn’t feel bad about selling currently useless upgrades to up cards and make the decks you grind with more effective.  After that point, though, you enter a wealth accumulation phase.

Question on this: I just re-read it for the hundredth time and realized the rules of thumb don't apply until AFTER you get your fully upped AI3 deck and FG deck. Okay, that makes sense. But in the next sentence, what does "currently useless upgrades" mean? I just won my first upped card from AI4. Does it mean that if it's not useful in the AI3 and FG decks I'm working toward I should sell it? What about the 150 *unupped* cards I've won so far? Keep or sell? (Assuming they are not in the decks I'm working toward)?

Could someone please clarify this for me? (And yes, I've read through the whole thread and I still don't understand. Must be a little dense today, sorry.)

D Gately

It says you shouldn't mind selling your "currently useless upgrades" to make your fully upped AI3 and FG deck.

But now that you have upped those two,
"Never sell upgraded cards unless you have more than six copies, and never sell unupgraded cards unless you have over 12 copies total (unupped and upped)."

[Gately]

It says you shouldn't mind selling your "currently useless upgrades" to make your fully upped AI3 and FG deck.

But now that you have upped those two,
"Never sell upgraded cards unless you have more than six copies, and never sell unupgraded cards unless you have over 12 copies total (unupped and upped)."

But I haven't upped those two yet. I'm just getting started. So two questions:
1. When first starting, should you sell all the cards you win except what you need for the AI3 and FG deck?
2. When you first start winning *upped* cards, should you sell them in order to upgrade the cards you need for the *upgraded* decks.

Generally speaking, if you have an unupped AI3 farmer - which you won't ever sell - and an upped FG grinder - which again you shouldn't ever sell - you're going to rack up so much money in so little time that the rest of the guide will be more useful. The AI3 farmer is to get the money for the FG grinder and, more importantly, the money to start grinding (at first you'll lose even with the best grinders, since you don't know how to play it, and don't know your enemies: it's inevitable, and the AI3 farmer is there to provide the necessary backup for initial bankrupts).

So you're not supposed to upgrade your AI3 farmer? That makes sense now that I think about it.

[Sevs]

It says you shouldn't mind selling your "currently useless upgrades" to make your fully upped AI3 and FG deck.

But now that you have upped those two,
"Never sell upgraded cards unless you have more than six copies, and never sell unupgraded cards unless you have over 12 copies total (unupped and upped)."

But I haven't upped those two yet. I'm just getting started. So two questions:
1. When first starting, should you sell all the cards you win except what you need for the AI3 and FG deck?
2. When you first start winning *upped* cards, should you sell them in order to upgrade the cards you need for the *upgraded* decks.

From my point of view, I would say yes to both

[ralouf]

I agree with sevs.

I specially recommand to quickly uppgrade 6 photon to make a ray of light/fractal/hope deck with only unupped cards. Then you can grind FG with it and gain lot of cards/money for other decks. when you have fully up this deck and an AI3 farmer or maybe even another FG farmer stop selling cards.

[Gately]

But I should NEVER sell rares, right?

[ralouf]

I advise you to keep them yes, specially trident ! mornign glory can be selled you'll win a lot of them I think.