[Tutorial] From Rags To Riches 2.0 (How to get rich quick)

[CuCN]

Ran the grabbow under the simulator and got this:

Player
Wins: 2
Winrate: 8 %
Average TTW: 13
EMs: 0
EM rate: 0 %

Computer
Wins: 23
Winrate: 92 %
Average TTW: 11.130434782608695
EMs: 0
EM rate: 0 %

You call this more then half my games? (Against AI4 using Half blood grabbow)

If you play like the AI does, then these results are relevant. Otherwise, the stats you should be looking at are here.

[tetsuo191]

First of all: Thank you Chapuz. This tutorial has made me rich 

I've been using this guide for some months (with approx one hour playtime per day on average) and right now I don't see how I could ever become poor again electrum-wise.

One should be prepared for a lot of grinding. The Limitless Speed stage was annoying at times (especially since Firecell seemed more fun to me). I moved to The Bone Collector relatively early, which was ok once I upgraded the Otyugh. That seemed to make a big difference. Alternating between arena and FG grinding with these two decks offered enough fun to keep me going. While playing the Bone Collector, I step-by-step became aware of which cards in it need upgrading before others (look at Guardian Angel early for more attack power!), which in turn provided motivation for beating up some FGs with Limitless Speed again.

During this process, I naturally got rare spins, in which I mostly aimed for Shards of Bravery, as those were the only ones needed for Voodoo Bravery. Also, I want to use them again for The Brave Malignant Ball (still missing some other shards though...). Going for SoBr was a good idea I think. Once I got 5 of them and upgraded 6 Basilisk Bloods, money came rolling in. No stopping it. The rest of Voodoo Bravery and The Bone Collector was upgraded ridiculously fast.

With Voodoo Bravery finished (I use the Nova version, seems more consistent to me), the only thing I lack in this game now are rares.... time to destroy some arena again 

[Chapuz]

Added Part 5-c) with loads of good links.

[theelkspeaks]

Added Part 5-c) with loads of good links.

Very honored to be chosen as an Arena representative!

[ademut]

Hi all, I've been using Firecell for a while now, and how much is it worth it switch to Limitless Speed and spend 4500EC to up elixirs and dragon of the semi unupped version (I already have 3 upped EH, actually even more than 3) to speed up FG farming?
And also, does it exist an accurate winnable (or skip) FG list for the semiunupped version? I can't find it... 

[Higurashi]

It's well worth the increased electrum/h. 4500 is nothing after a few hours of farming. After that you can look into upgrading an Arena farmer to get the shards you need for the very best FG killers (and HB, PvP and Arena killers). Or you can work towards a RoL/Hope with 6 Rays and 10 upped quanta sources for killing FG's even faster.

[ademut]

It's well worth the increased electrum/h. 4500 is nothing after a few hours of farming. After that you can look into upgrading an Arena farmer to get the shards you need for the very best FG killers (and HB, PvP and Arena killers).

That's what I'm trying to do , but I was not sure to swap from Firecell (BTW, too funny ) as I hadn't found a detailed list for the semiunupped version, now i got it --> http://elementsthegame.wikia.com/wiki/Limitless_Speed

Or you can work towards a RoL/Hope with 6 Rays and 10 upped quanta sources for killing FG's even faster.

yup, I'm also tempted to try that, you are not the first one that suggests it (I'm looking at you, mentor!), and I find it more interesting actually...I mean, 0TK is very funny for the first times (especially the combo Firecell+Skullyard=400 and more Chimeras), but when I play it for farming, after a while it gets boring...
I just didn't wan't to upgrade too many cards, so if the efficiency is roughly double than Firecell , for the moment I prefer to up just 3 cards and use Limitless Speed rather than up the 16 of RoL/Hope

EDIT: correction, I didn't read properly..

[Higurashi]

RoL/Hope without 10 upped quanta sources is comparable to LS in electrum/h. It's not until you have enough for the quanta that RoL/Hope becomes better. You'll use those Towers and Pends for other decks too, so it's no waste. Same with 2-3 Electrocutors.

[ademut]

mmm, still I have to up at least 6 cards against 3, but I'm thinking about it: how much faster is RoL/Hope once upped the ten quanta sources?

[Higurashi]

Not much testing has been done for LS, but what has been done shows FGei around 2.5k. I believe that to be in the low numbers and is also for the really big version of LS. Mostly unupped RoL/Hope was around 4.2k in recent testing, and completely upped was around 5.6 FGei 3 years ago. My personal estimation (which is what you more or less have to go by nowadays) is that it's easily and by far worth it to go from LS to half-upped RoL/Hope. It's even worth it to go to RoL/Hope once you have 6 Rays upped. The increase in FGei (electrum/h for FG's) will make you the electrum back in less than 4 hours.

[Submachine]

If you have upped quanta sources for rolhope, it can be pretty fast. Personally I often find myself playing a fractal on my second turn when I use it, tho I have 12 upgraded pillars/pends instead of 10. I can't say if it's faster than LS, because I didn't use LS as much as Rolhope, so I leave that part to Higurashi. ^^"

However, you don't need to wait until you have 10 ups. You can start farming when you have the 6 Ray of Lights with unupped quanta sources, and I already saw that you have the electrocutor and lobotomizer for it.

[ademut]

actually I already have three lobos (one upped), so I think I'll go with it for now, just to change a little bit from the stall/0TK strategies...I know I'll end up to spend my money building, upping and trying different false god farmers just to vary a little bit during the farming marathons!
btw, in this version -> http://elementscommunity.org/forum/duo-decks/my-rolhope-%28mostly%29-unupped/
I don't get why using pillars of the same color of the mark...