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Re: [Tutorial] From Rags To Riches 2.0 (How to get rich quick) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53032.msg1130832#msg1130832
« Reply #36 on: March 25, 2014, 10:37:00 pm »
If you get frustrated with Firecell, keep in AI4 till you get 9K and make Limitless Speed
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Re: [Tutorial] From Rags To Riches 2.0 (How to get rich quick) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53032.msg1139253#msg1139253
« Reply #37 on: June 06, 2014, 06:21:57 pm »
If you get frustrated with Firecell, keep in AI4 till you get 9K and make Limitless Speed

First off I love your guide, find it really useful. I'm still grinding towards a fully upped arena grinder. Had some go at it with the halfblood grabow (pretty good against bronze), but need something more consistent :)

What I wanted to say that I really really hate limitless speed :D I find it very inconsistent and much less practical than firecell. I'm running firecell with 4 upped hourglasses (and upped fractal because I got that from a spin) and against the winnable FG's it has a great win percentage. Limitless speed on the other end is very dodgy especially because it's an 8 card combo. I usually end up having my hand full, so I can't draw and more often than I care to admit I end up with all 8 cards in my hand without having the mana to play them all. Also like you write in suggestions, you prefer the slim version, but thats murdered by any poison, momentum and decay. The fatter versions are a bit unbalanced on the other hand, again being unable to draw due to the heavy number of cards you need to keep in hand.

Just saying :)

So for any newbies like me, keep using firecell and skip limitless speed if you get fustrated. Just up the hourglasses.

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Re: [Tutorial] From Rags To Riches 2.0 (How to get rich quick) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53032.msg1139631#msg1139631
« Reply #38 on: June 09, 2014, 05:55:42 pm »
Theres a problem.
The starter deck for  darkness DOESNT have 4 dark dragons in the first place.

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Re: [Tutorial] From Rags To Riches 2.0 (How to get rich quick) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53032.msg1139636#msg1139636
« Reply #39 on: June 09, 2014, 06:28:00 pm »
Theres a problem.
The starter deck for  darkness DOESNT have 4 dark dragons in the first place.
Nope, it has 1; look at the spoiler inside the quotation  :)
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Re: [Tutorial] From Rags To Riches 2.0 (How to get rich quick) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53032.msg1139638#msg1139638
« Reply #40 on: June 09, 2014, 06:33:20 pm »
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Discard and sell:
4 Black Dragons
3 Devourers
1 Dusk Mantle
1 Steal
Orly then?

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Re: [Tutorial] From Rags To Riches 2.0 (How to get rich quick) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53032.msg1139639#msg1139639
« Reply #41 on: June 09, 2014, 06:39:39 pm »
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Discard and sell:
4 Black Dragons
3 Devourers
1 Dusk Mantle
1 Steal
Orly then?
Ah I was meant to write the Dragon, Parasites and Devourers and I derped. I will fix it when I get home. Don't worry, I tested the deck progress myself and selling basically all the darkness and aether stuff you will get the deck shown.
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Re: [Tutorial] From Rags To Riches 2.0 (How to get rich quick) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53032.msg1139708#msg1139708
« Reply #42 on: June 10, 2014, 03:25:08 pm »
You havent changed it.

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Re: [Tutorial] From Rags To Riches 2.0 (How to get rich quick) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53032.msg1139722#msg1139722
« Reply #43 on: June 10, 2014, 05:12:29 pm »
You havent changed it.
Done, thanks!
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Re: [Tutorial] From Rags To Riches 2.0 (How to get rich quick) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53032.msg1139812#msg1139812
« Reply #44 on: June 11, 2014, 04:21:27 am »
Hey! Thanks for the guide, it's been really useful.

I'm stuck with Limitless Speed, 'grinding' FGs (I'm not having a lot of luck here, heh).

I was wondering, I really need to get enough electrum to play those decks (FEVER and the other one) to grind bronze? You say that they have 2 rare cards at most but they're fully upped, and it takes a lot of time to get enough electrum to make those decks... I'm getting a bit bored of playing Limitless Speed and I don't feel it's useful enough. What I'm doing wrong?

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Re: [Tutorial] From Rags To Riches 2.0 (How to get rich quick) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53032.msg1139815#msg1139815
« Reply #45 on: June 11, 2014, 04:31:37 am »
There are several rareless upgraded bronze farmers in the forums. However, semi upgraded versions aren't shown. That means you will have to decide the amount of upgrades you want to have in your first Bronze farmer before you start massacring Bronze Arena.

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Re: [Tutorial] From Rags To Riches 2.0 (How to get rich quick) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53032.msg1139838#msg1139838
« Reply #46 on: June 11, 2014, 07:35:25 am »
Ran the grabbow under the simulator and got this:

Player
Wins: 2
Winrate: 8 %
Average TTW: 13
EMs: 0
EM rate: 0 %

Computer
Wins: 23
Winrate: 92 %
Average TTW: 11.130434782608695
EMs: 0
EM rate: 0 %

You call this more then half my games? (Against AI4 using Half blood grabbow)

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Re: [Tutorial] From Rags To Riches 2.0 (How to get rich quick) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53032.msg1139839#msg1139839
« Reply #47 on: June 11, 2014, 07:44:10 am »
Ran the grabbow under the simulator and got this:

Player
Wins: 2
Winrate: 8 %
Average TTW: 13
EMs: 0
EM rate: 0 %

Computer
Wins: 23
Winrate: 92 %
Average TTW: 11.130434782608695
EMs: 0
EM rate: 0 %

You call this more then half my games? (Against AI4 using Half blood grabbow)

The simulator uses an AI to operate the grabbow. And AI was programmed to be a piece of sentient toast.
Also, 25 games is too small a sample.
When you play the game of thrones, you win or you die. There is no middle ground.

 

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