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Omega Vultures https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16155.msg206800#msg206800
« on: November 22, 2010, 03:20:28 pm »
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ok so the idea is that if you play this deck against a player that has this deck also you can get potentially infinite|infinite vultures.

Why?

0 cast mindgate, 1 cast vulture, 2 cast bone wall once you both have it and can cast it, 3 cast sparks and nightmare and fractal them, 4 if you are lucky enough to draw a nightmare at the same time you can flush your hand, cast a spark, get a nightmare with your mindgate and cast it on the spark. The other player does the same and does not draw his own nightmare because he did not draw a card when you nightmared a spark. If the nightmares are upped you can keep this up forever!

I played it with ratch a while and we did get the lucky step 4, but the nightmare wasnt upped and ratch had to go at some point... I got a screen from when I drew out vs his cpu.. im too lazy to up it, but ratchet also has a screen from when he left. (we got to about 10 256/257 condors when he left and i played the cpu to almost 300|301 condors)
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Re: Omega Vultures https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16155.msg206804#msg206804
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2010, 03:22:16 pm »
Fractals and Mindgates don't work well together but I haven't tried it yet so...
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Re: Omega Vultures https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16155.msg206805#msg206805
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2010, 03:25:32 pm »
Fractals and Mindgates don't work well together but I haven't tried it yet so...
yea it worked for me and ratch, but mebbe you get step 4 way easier if you replace some fractals with mindgates

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Re: Omega Vultures https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16155.msg206808#msg206808
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2010, 03:30:55 pm »
ok so the idea is that if you play this deck against a player that has this deck also you can get potentially infinite|infinite vultures.

Infinite|Infinite will never happen as creatures have a cap of 499|499 stats. Also, its much easier to do this by simply using Nymphs. That way you dont have to face the same deck, or use Mindgates for that matter. Or Vultures, go with any creature.
"Simply using nymphs" means nymph tears, not being super lucky with oracle btw.

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Re: Omega Vultures https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16155.msg206820#msg206820
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2010, 03:38:04 pm »
ok so the idea is that if you play this deck against a player that has this deck also you can get potentially infinite|infinite vultures.

Infinite|Infinite will never happen as creatures have a cap of 499|499 stats. Also, its much easier to do this by simply using Nymphs. That way you dont have to face the same deck, or use Mindgates for that matter. Or Vultures, go with any creature.
"Simply using nymphs" means nymph tears, not being super lucky with oracle btw.
But how many 499|499 creatures can you get? With this deck deck the maximum is 44 with a lot of patience and luck..

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Re: Omega Vultures https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16155.msg206827#msg206827
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2010, 03:42:49 pm »
In case ur wondering: The chance of drawing a nightmare at the same time is 63 %. It is the same as the chance of drawing a nightmare in the first 6 cards.. I could give the proof of that if anyone is interested.

Edit: but that 63 % does not ensure that you also have all the other necessary cards and it assumes that each player starts the game with 0 cards in hand...

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Re: Omega Vultures https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16155.msg206833#msg206833
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2010, 03:43:47 pm »
ok so the idea is that if you play this deck against a player that has this deck also you can get potentially infinite|infinite vultures.

Infinite|Infinite will never happen as creatures have a cap of 499|499 stats. Also, its much easier to do this by simply using Nymphs. That way you dont have to face the same deck, or use Mindgates for that matter. Or Vultures, go with any creature.
"Simply using nymphs" means nymph tears, not being super lucky with oracle btw.
But how many 499|499 creatures can you get? With this deck deck the maximum is 44 with a lot of patience and luck..
How many? Nothing is stopping you to get 2 full fields, aka 46 creatures, if you pack an Eternity. With zero luck involved too.

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Re: Omega Vultures https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16155.msg206836#msg206836
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2010, 03:46:04 pm »
ok so the idea is that if you play this deck against a player that has this deck also you can get potentially infinite|infinite vultures.

Infinite|Infinite will never happen as creatures have a cap of 499|499 stats. Also, its much easier to do this by simply using Nymphs. That way you dont have to face the same deck, or use Mindgates for that matter. Or Vultures, go with any creature.
"Simply using nymphs" means nymph tears, not being super lucky with oracle btw.
But how many 499|499 creatures can you get? With this deck deck the maximum is 44 with a lot of patience and luck..
How many? Nothing is stopping you to get 2 full fields, aka 46 creatures, if you pack an Eternity. With zero luck involved too.
can you link that deck?

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Re: Omega Vultures https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16155.msg206844#msg206844
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2010, 03:52:19 pm »
Its a useless deck, and I definitely wouldnt ever post that as... its useless? But I can build it for ya if you wish. I built something similar for that bigger is better event, but opted for something else later.

Anyway, all you need is couple of Tears, some Earth and Fire pillars to get Nymphs, Eternity, Fractal and couple of TUs to fill up the board after you kill Nymphs. Gravity shield or Entropy nymph to prevent killing yourself in the process. I did pack couple of SoRs when I used the deck, just so I dont have to get as many pillars. Those can be placed in any deck.

Re: Omega Vultures https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16155.msg210656#msg210656
« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2010, 08:28:20 am »
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