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White Hole [PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34253.msg432078#msg432078
« on: November 29, 2011, 12:46:08 am »
Here is a little deck i drummed up to make use of 3 of my little nymphs:

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Now obviously Disc / hole is a tried and true tactic, but people never seem to expect to see Antimatter in there, i dont know why particulary, as it seems a perfect fit to me: starve them of quanta and then when they finally play creatures, hit them with AM.

I know it looks a little quanta starved, but i have never found that to be a problem, because the big costly toons are not usually needed until they can be paid for, in fact the deck has quite a natural playing path which is very satisfying:

turn 1 you usually have a discord and 3 pends in there, so hit them with that
turns 2 and 3 they are suffering from discord, you build quanta then play BH
turn 4 and 5 still building quanta can play another BH or a charger
turn 6 and 7 around now you can pay for a nymph and they have usually squeezed out a creature or two. You also might have a second discord and AW.
turns 8-11 are spent AMing, playing chargers, dragon, finishing them off.

I actually only built this as a little fun deck for myself as my nymphs seemed to be gathering dust, but it actually feels very powerful in the meta atm aginst OHKs, speedbows and even a few golem rushes that burn any CC on chargers before you get a nymph out, although it can be touch and go with speed before you nymph. also has a counter to SoSac with repeatable self AMs. Obviously gets destroyed by firestall (too much CC/PC) and ghostmare is problematic.

It is not, and will not be gamebreaking, but i found it very fun to play so i thought i would share it, any commets always apreciated :)

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Re: White Hole [PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34253.msg435382#msg435382
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2011, 01:23:29 am »
... *jaw drops* you haz 2 entropy nymphs! i just want one then i could build my original FG deck in game to test it, IN GAME! i r jealous. anyways back to topic, i take it ur looking for a rush with less healing *sarcasm*

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Re: White Hole [PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34253.msg435385#msg435385
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2011, 01:34:18 am »
You don't want to have at least some pillars instead of all pends?
Would -2 Black Holes + Pend be the best change for adding a second Amber Nymph?
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Re: White Hole [PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34253.msg435392#msg435392
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2011, 01:48:03 am »
... *jaw drops* you haz 2 entropy nymphs! i just want one then i could build my original FG deck in game to test it, IN GAME! i r jealous. anyways back to topic, i take it ur looking for a rush with less healing *sarcasm*
i got three, u mad?
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anyway, not sure why you named it white hole, considering white holes are supposed to be the opposite of black and create stuff...


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Re: White Hole [PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34253.msg435402#msg435402
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2011, 02:09:57 am »
... *jaw drops* you haz 2 entropy nymphs! i just want one then i could build my original FG deck in game to test it, IN GAME! i r jealous. anyways back to topic, i take it ur looking for a rush with less healing *sarcasm*
i got three, u mad?
:P

anyway, not sure why you named it white hole, considering white holes are supposed to be the opposite of black and create stuff...
I have five.  8)

Unfortunately, I don't have any amber nymphs  :(.  Wish I did, so I can try this kind of deck.

Re: White Hole [PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34253.msg435403#msg435403
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2011, 02:10:44 am »
... *jaw drops* you haz 2 entropy nymphs! i just want one then i could build my original FG deck in game to test it, IN GAME! i r jealous. anyways back to topic, i take it ur looking for a rush with less healing *sarcasm*
i got three, u mad?
:P

anyway, not sure why you named it white hole, considering white holes are supposed to be the opposite of black and create stuff...
I have five.  8)

Unfortunately, I don't have any amber nymphs  :(.  Wish I did, so I can try this kind of deck.
i have 2 i think, at least one

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Re: White Hole [PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34253.msg435454#msg435454
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2011, 03:20:02 am »
... *jaw drops* you haz 2 entropy nymphs! i just want one then i could build my original FG deck in game to test it, IN GAME! i r jealous. anyways back to topic, i take it ur looking for a rush with less healing *sarcasm*
i got three, u mad?
:P

anyway, not sure why you named it white hole, considering white holes are supposed to be the opposite of black and create stuff...
I have five.  8)

Unfortunately, I don't have any amber nymphs  :(.  Wish I did, so I can try this kind of deck.
i have 2 i think, at least one

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I have 7 entropy and 2 gravity, beat that!  :P
Gloating aside, the deck looks fun if not a bit stressed on quanta. Nice work.
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Re: White Hole [PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34253.msg435511#msg435511
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2011, 06:35:31 am »
i've always taken antimatter in my discoholez...
but nice build anyways, curious to some results.
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Re: White Hole [PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34253.msg435599#msg435599
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2011, 12:59:35 pm »
white hole because anti-black hole would be white hole... could probably come up with a better name, like i said in the OP the deck is mainly just a fun deck i drummed up for PVP but when i get a chance i'll do a big sample of PvP2 games to get some results if people want them.
Also a little bit chuffed the master of gravity likes my disc-hole build lol, aswel as Mr Ghostmare :P

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Re: White Hole [PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34253.msg451986#msg451986
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2012, 07:57:39 pm »
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Well, this is an interesting aproach to Discord / black hole. But i think your purple nymphs aren't really needed. If you replace them and the Animate weapons with more antimatters i believe it will work better. Also, i would wait until i get 2 or 3 amber nymphs before sticking them in your dishole. For the moment, i would use 4 - 5 black holes, and that leaves you open for less pends.
Now, to your damage sources. Since what i'm talking about doesn't include animate weapon, i don't think you will have enough damage. That's why I like to pack Overdriven Armaggios in my dishole.
This could be a viable version with chargers:
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It might be a little faster, and Antimatter / Black hole should be enough to keep you alive.
If you like my suggestion about armaggios, this is what i would use:
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That deck ramps up quickly but it might take a little longer to set up.
Now, when you get enough nymphs, this version works really nice:
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This one takes longer to set up, but once you get a nymph down its GG, since you'll be draining his quanta each turn and your opponent won't be able to do anything but watch while your armagios kill him.

 

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