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vinkupeikko's deathstalker/sacrifice rush counter https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42011.msg521696#msg521696
« on: July 13, 2012, 11:41:32 pm »
Ahey! first things first, I apologize my fairly bad grammar. =)


 For a long time I have been looking for a good rush counter for pvp.. Well I didn't find any that suited my needs.. and I decided to make my own..  I didn't manage to find anything very near like this from the forums. 
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I find this pretty effective against fairly fast rushes, like fire, grabboid etc. etc.. basically every deck that is quite fast has fairly big chance to lose to this deck.


The deck works like this:
1. get some damage out, stalker+unstoppable
2. make sure your health stays above 40 with the sundials and holy flashes (which aren't necessary, but I felt like they could be useful in some situations.) while the enemy increases his/hers damage. same time when keeping creatures from attacking, put out more stalkers.
3. when enemy has more than 20 damage out, start spamming Shard of Sacrifice while the stalkers build up nice poison damage.

and here comes the pros and cons:
PROS
+ effective against quick decks, and good enough against slower ones
+does not use much quanta
+nice poison output
+ sundials keep the enemy damage out while you build your own, and combined with the SoSacs, this deck turns the damage your opponent deals against him.
+ not very many bad draws in the beginning
CONS
-vulnerable to purify, Creature Control, Permanent Control
cant think of any other major Cons.. there is some but right now I cant think of them.


 this deck does good against ai4, pvp and arena. not sure how would it work unupped

you may wonder why I dont use darkness mark and eclipse instead of unstobbable.. but that would make my deck to lose any decks with damage resisting shields. I just find  unstobbable much


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This deck was posted before the 1.32 game update and as a result no longer works correctly.

Here is a Dune scorpion version of the deck, It showed up to be quite effective, because the amount of poison increases while playing sundials, which is good. The Dune scorpions cost one quanta more than stalkers, so it might slow up your start, but no much.
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Re: vinkupeikko's deathstalker/sacrifice rush counter https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42011.msg521700#msg521700
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2012, 11:50:01 pm »
Why not use dune scorps? Neurotoxin would probably be better imo.

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Re: vinkupeikko's deathstalker/sacrifice rush counter https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42011.msg521702#msg521702
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2012, 11:58:50 pm »
yes, dune scorpions would be more effective.. but they cost one quanta more.. I know that isn't much, but in the beginning you usually cant play dune scorpion out on the second turn, when with stalkers you can.. that isn't a big difference, but its something
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Re: vinkupeikko's deathstalker/sacrifice rush counter https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42011.msg521707#msg521707
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Re: vinkupeikko's deathstalker/sacrifice rush counter https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42011.msg521714#msg521714
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2012, 01:02:57 am »
Have you thought about switching the mark to light and using improved blessing instead of unstoppable?  That would make you more vulnerable to shields, but it would let you draw with the dials and deal more damage to shieldless opponents.  It would also let you use Shard of Divinity instead of Holy Flash if you wanted.

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Re: vinkupeikko's deathstalker/sacrifice rush counter https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42011.msg521840#msg521840
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2012, 09:20:23 am »
Could be.. I must go testing a bit :D thanks for the feedback  ;)
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Re: vinkupeikko's deathstalker/sacrifice rush counter https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42011.msg521845#msg521845
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2012, 09:54:24 am »
The second one looks exactly like Splat and i prefer poison dial for rush counter
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