Vader Sader (Vampiric Dagger + Crusader duo)

[wavedash]

I accidentally beat Dream Catcher with this deck. Also, I'm liking the Vampire Stiletto idea. Means I don't need Pendulums, which means fewer bad draws.

[Fan of Rainbows]

What would be a good upgrade order for the original deck after the animates?

I'll appreciate any answers.

FoR 

[tinkady]

probably stilettos last, because they're good unupped too (can be played off the mark easily)

[TheForbiddenOracle]

First upgrades should always be animate weapons.

[TheIdioticIdiot]

First upgrades should always be animate weapons.

he was asking what upgrades AFTER the animates
blessings, that one is quite important

[TheForbiddenOracle]

0.o my bad... Perhaps Crusaders after the Animate weapons

[GG]

0.o my bad... Perhaps Crusaders after the Animate weapons

Either Crusaders or Towers. Taking out crusaders fast is the key to playing this deck effectively.

[Funkyvenom]

If I use mark of air, 4 stilettos, 4 flying weapons, and dark pillars to replace the pendulums and fill in the empty spots would it work? I am trying to see how it would work totally unupped.

[Mithcairion]

If I use mark of air, 4 stilettos, 4 flying weapons, and dark pillars to replace the pendulums and fill in the empty spots would it work? I am trying to see how it would work totally unupped.

I have messed around a lot with this deck unupped and I can tell you that, while somewhat effective, it is much more unstable than the upped counterpart.  Simply having to run three elements makes the deck so much more unreliable.  While it can still net you some impressive wins, I would strongly recommend upping the Animate Weapons before trying to do too much with this deck.  In an unupped environment, I can't tell you how many times I would be sitting with Stilettos in my hand and no  quanta, or Flying Weapons in my hand with no  quanta. 

If you run an air (or darkness) mark you will end up with a ton of unused quanta.  In addition to this, keep in mind that a Crusader requires 8  to play and then activate, so you need the constant influx of  quanta provided by your mark.

By all means, play around with it, I'm just relating what conclusions I have come to through messing around with this deck unupped.

[coinich]

One thing to note is that its better to Bless flown Daggers/Stilettos first, as the Crusaders used to take the current stats of a weapon instead of the normal stats, making 19/7 Crusaders w/ Vampire a very powerful foe.

[grindpower]

How good would it be with Druidic Staffs instead of daggers and with mark of life?

[Funkyvenom]

How good would it be with Druidic Staffs instead of daggers and with mark of life?

Blessings would not increase the healing of the staffs and that is kind of the point.