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« on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:15 pm »
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So this is the basic version of my Dive deck, my first deck made.  Obviously I don't have all of these upgraded yet, but this is the goal I'm working towards.  Does anyone have any critiques?  Its pretty smooth and streamlined; the goal is to get a Wyrm or Pegasus out, massively blessed, and then hit for direct damage.  Gravity Shield and Eagle Eye hold the enemy's creatures at bay.  Sundials for stall/buildup time.  Pretty simple concept, I think.
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« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:15 pm »

Mark of Gravity, I assume?

Looks decent, but I think you might have more luck with a Fog Shield. Just a thought.

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« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:15 pm »

Mark of Gravity, I assume?

Looks decent, but I think you might have more luck with a Fog Shield. Just a thought.
Whoops, sorry, yes.  Mark of Gravity.

You think taking a Gravity Shield out and putting in a Fog Shield will help?  If there's anything I can't block with the Gravity shield, and I'm desparate, I'll bless it, then block it.  Use Eagle Eye to pick off the smaller stuff.

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« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:15 pm »

If something is small enough to fit under Gravity Shield, EE should be able to pick it off. Using Blessing on your opponent's creatures is not a good strategy, ever.

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« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:15 pm »

If something is small enough to fit under Gravity Shield, EE should be able to pick it off. Using Blessing on your opponent's creatures is not a good strategy, ever.
I never said it was a good idea, just a desperate idea. :p

Namely if I don't have an Owl/Eagle Eye out.  ATM, I only have one Owl Eye.

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« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:15 pm »

assuming at the deck at 30 cards mean that ur a speed deck, so what are the sundials doing here?
dive+parrallel is still a better option, but thats a good try to make a good deck

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« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:16 pm »

assuming at the deck at 30 cards mean that ur a speed deck, so what are the sundials doing here?
dive+parrallel is still a better option, but thats a good try to make a good deck
At the moment, they are primarily for draw power early game; and occasionally for stall.  If I can use them to get a few extra quanta in the first two/three turns,  I can have something well setup by turn 4.

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« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:17 pm »

assuming at the deck at 30 cards mean that ur a speed deck, so what are the sundials doing here?
dive+parrallel is still a better option, but thats a good try to make a good deck
At the moment, they are primarily for draw power early game; and occasionally for stall.  If I can use them to get a few extra quanta in the first two/three turns,  I can have something well setup by turn 4.
If Im not mistaken, u only have 3 of those  which is pretty unstable. Most would prefer more reliability for more card draws

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« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:17 pm »

assuming at the deck at 30 cards mean that ur a speed deck, so what are the sundials doing here?
dive+parrallel is still a better option, but thats a good try to make a good deck
At the moment, they are primarily for draw power early game; and occasionally for stall.  If I can use them to get a few extra quanta in the first two/three turns,  I can have something well setup by turn 4.
If Im not mistaken, u only have 3 of those  which is pretty unstable. Most would prefer more reliability for more card draws
How exactly is it unstable?  I usually draw at least 1 in my opening hand (there's a 1 in 3 chance when you draw your first card).  The only issue I have is the timer shield, but thats not usually an issue.

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« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:28 pm »

assuming at the deck at 30 cards mean that ur a speed deck, so what are the sundials doing here?
dive+parrallel is still a better option, but thats a good try to make a good deck
At the moment, they are primarily for draw power early game; and occasionally for stall.  If I can use them to get a few extra quanta in the first two/three turns,  I can have something well setup by turn 4.
If Im not mistaken, u only have 3 of those  which is pretty unstable. Most would prefer more reliability for more card draws
How exactly is it unstable?  I usually draw at least 1 in my opening hand (there's a 1 in 3 chance when you draw your first card).  The only issue I have is the timer shield, but thats not usually an issue.
You're confusing 1 in 3 with 1 in 10. On your first card, you have a 10% chance of drawing it. Overall, you have *about* (I don't feel like going through the math) a 7/30 chance of drawing a single sundial in your hand, which is about 23.33%. Since you have 3 chances at this percent, you *should* draw a sundial in your hand about 70% of the time.

(Correct me if my math is wrong :P).

Overall, I like the deck.

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« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:28 pm »

I don't feel like going through the math
So let the calculator do the work for you: http://stattrek.com/Tables/Hypergeometric.aspx
There's actually a 56% chance of getting at least one dial in the opening hand, with 3 dials in a 30 card deck.

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Re: Unstoppable Dive https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1006.msg14174#msg14174
« Reply #11 on: December 24, 2009, 02:08:48 pm »
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