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Re: The Newby Half Blood Farmer. Anti... Bolt? No Rares, No Upgrades https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20720.msg268813#msg268813
« Reply #24 on: February 11, 2011, 04:14:12 pm »
I think antimatter would be the best thing. Its hard to get those out fast enough, and it will often be the thing seperating  :life and  :death
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Re: The Newby Half Blood Farmer. Anti... Bolt? No Rares, No Upgrades https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20720.msg270067#msg270067
« Reply #25 on: February 13, 2011, 04:14:46 pm »
Blue, what do you do when you come up against steam machines or forest spirits?

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Re: The Newby Half Blood Farmer. Anti... Bolt? No Rares, No Upgrades https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20720.msg270233#msg270233
« Reply #26 on: February 13, 2011, 07:49:14 pm »
Blue, what do you do when you come up against steam machines or forest spirits?
In those situations, I wait til they have enough dmg to be a real threat. Most of the time the decks arent the proper duo so they only have the quanta from the quantum towers to fuel the abilities.

If I already have antimattered creatures, then i completely ignore them unless they do more damage than what I am able to heal. Once they do more damage than that, I antimatter them.
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Re: The Newby Half Blood Farmer. Anti... Bolt? No Rares, No Upgrades https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20720.msg270453#msg270453
« Reply #27 on: February 14, 2011, 01:37:32 am »
Hmmm, maybe I antimatter too soon.  I guess the big worry is when there are no other antimattered creatures.

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Re: The Newby Half Blood Farmer. Anti... Bolt? No Rares, No Upgrades https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20720.msg270501#msg270501
« Reply #28 on: February 14, 2011, 02:18:20 am »
Are you facing decks that are actually duos made for growth? ex  :life/ :water decks? If so, then I would take a beating as long as you can without anti-mattering safely.

For off decks that rely on quantum towers, then watch how much quanta the have to power the growth. Try and wait til they run dry on the  :water if possible, however, if not then once again, wait as long as you acn before anti-mattering
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Re: The Newby Half Blood Farmer. Anti... Bolt? No Rares, No Upgrades https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20720.msg270649#msg270649
« Reply #29 on: February 14, 2011, 06:26:47 am »
The ones I've had trouble with are the ones that are duos set up to support the growth.  The upgraded Steam Machines are tough cuz they have like 15 hp and even waiting a few turns till they are at 13 attack, they get bumped to 8 attack on the AI's next move and have enough HP to get them back into the positive.

Just a pain, like when my fire shields don't pop up until the turn AFTER the the lava destroyers are played.  lol

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Re: The Newby Half Blood Farmer. Anti... Bolt? No Rares, No Upgrades https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20720.msg271754#msg271754
« Reply #30 on: February 16, 2011, 05:54:10 am »
This is actually one of the most frustrating decks i've played, and i've tried all the variations for quanta gaining, and still this deck has yielded me i'd say 3 wins out of 25 HB's played.  and yes i know how to play the game and whatnot, and know the strategy behind playing this deck.

i honestly don't know if i'm just really unlucky with gaining enough quanta for anti-matter but my goodness, what the fuck could i be doing wrong.

but imo, this deck is not newby friendly

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Re: The Newby Half Blood Farmer. Anti... Bolt? No Rares, No Upgrades https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20720.msg271851#msg271851
« Reply #31 on: February 16, 2011, 01:23:41 pm »
This is actually one of the most frustrating decks i've played, and i've tried all the variations for quanta gaining, and still this deck has yielded me i'd say 3 wins out of 25 HB's played.  and yes i know how to play the game and whatnot, and know the strategy behind playing this deck.

i honestly don't know if i'm just really unlucky with gaining enough quanta for anti-matter but my goodness, what the fuck could i be doing wrong.

but imo, this deck is not newby friendly
Its probably just bad luck. Go back further into the topic and you will see...

Maybe I just fail, but I lost the first ten games I tried with this. Either I drew all my amethyst pillars early and he played more damage than I could reverse with antimatter before I could kill him with firebolt, or I drew all my fire pillars early and couldn't pay for an antimatter at all to stall long enough until I did get the quanta.

Maybe I just got bad matchups, or I just suck with the deck, but I'm not having much luck with this at all, and I doubt the noobs who this is meant for could play it better than I can. If you could provide stats for this to prove me wrong, it would be great.
Having much better success with the pendulum variant, but with entropy pends instead of fire pends. Can't believe I didn't tests it like that before, it's how I do the quanta for many of my own decks.
im very confident that it will even itself out over time. What decks are you having the most trouble with?
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Re: The Newby Half Blood Farmer. Anti... Bolt? No Rares, No Upgrades https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20720.msg272386#msg272386
« Reply #32 on: February 17, 2011, 03:45:46 am »
First i'm gonna apologize for sounding angry or insulting your deck, i'm sure you've invested a lot of time into this deck and played it many times, no mean to overstep any boundaries.

i'm having problems with both variations of pendulums, should i try hybrid pillars instead of pendulums or is that a bad idea? other than that, i don't see what could be going on other than really bad draws / HB matchups : /
could i be overlooking the use of fire shield?  i took those out and replaced them with deflagrations for pesty permas

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Re: The Newby Half Blood Farmer. Anti... Bolt? No Rares, No Upgrades https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20720.msg272394#msg272394
« Reply #33 on: February 17, 2011, 03:54:49 am »
The fire shields are extremely useful. The pesky perms arent all that big of a deal. Put them back, and use the pendulum version.
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Re: The Newby Half Blood Farmer. Anti... Bolt? No Rares, No Upgrades https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20720.msg273784#msg273784
« Reply #34 on: February 19, 2011, 09:16:10 am »
Ya you need the fire shields and I even added a supernova, reflective shield and  an enchant artifact.

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Re: The Newby Half Blood Farmer. Anti... Bolt? No Rares, No Upgrades https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20720.msg273827#msg273827
« Reply #35 on: February 19, 2011, 12:37:50 pm »
This is my deck :

(http://helltgivre.free.fr/elements/?mark=4sj&deck=z64vnz75f0z55f4z35f5z25f65f7z75giz56rn7dk7dnz27f2)


I honestly win more than 90% of my games, and most of them as Elemental Master. I will add a supernova with an enchant artifact, a reflective shield and maybe a purify. I sometimes had trouble before I added the 5 shards. Fire shield is often very important, as you want to get rid of excess creatures while healing some damage with shards and antimatter. The farenheits also give a bit more felxibility as you don't rely completely on the bolts to finish off your opponent, and you can then use the bolts on critters in dire situations.

 

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