Post by: the_unknown on November 22, 2011, 12:08:02 am
This deck was posted before the 1.32 game update and as a result may work very differently now. Use at your own risk.
hey its nubzftw1 and my message to you is scarab spam is fun as heck! anyways the main reason for me posting the deck is because it has been fixed up a little so here is the deck;
so thats the deck and here is a video review of the deck as promised in the original thread:
all creative and uncreative suggestions are welcomed as if your family has just got a new puppy, idk, anyways cya soon and remember; scarab spamming is great!
Post by: furballdn on November 22, 2011, 12:28:59 am
Post by: I8SumOrangesNItWasK on November 22, 2011, 12:33:40 am
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,33820.0.html
Although, adding enchant artifact to my above deck is a good idea. Not for the pendulums, but for the weapon. (That deck is perfectly capable of working without its pendulums.)
Post by: the_unknown on November 22, 2011, 12:55:36 am
No protection other than Sundial which hurts you as much as it helps (and is not enough anyway).yes the pendulums are very helpful!! the sundial is enough stalling if you dont have the cards you need, you'll know if you watched the video, and besides what other stalling would i add?
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,33820.0.html
Although, adding enchant artifact to my above deck is a good idea. Not for the pendulums, but for the weapon. (That deck is perfectly capable of working without its pendulums.)
Something tells me that you'll need a bit more :time quanta.and no even with a 1 pillar draw i was able to get the quanta i needed to even the game. again its in the video.
i know i said all advice is very much welcome and appreciated but ive come across these troubles in my last thread for this deck and this is much an improvement, and i have proven that this deck comes by many knots that i get into...
Post by: Ekki on November 22, 2011, 12:58:47 am
Something tells me that you'll need a bit more :time quanta.You might have some quanta troubles there.
Also, that Enchant Artifact seems out of place. I mean, you're packing it (I guess) so that your Eternity doesn't get PC'd, but chances are that it will end up clogging your hand when you could have drawed a Sundial or Time Pillar. Also, 30-card decks are faster at drawing, and that would let you take out the Novas.
Other than that, I'd like to see this deck with 6 Pharaohs, since you need to draw one earlier in the game.
EDIT: Seeing the video. You faced a 70-score guy in PvP, with Quantum pillars in his seemingly basic deck. Maybe you should try it in Arena (bronze is OK) or AI3/4, I see potential in the Pharaoh/SoR combo.
Post by: ninetyfools on November 22, 2011, 01:01:11 am
Post by: the_unknown on November 22, 2011, 01:02:47 am
Well, look's basically OK to me. Some concerns though:i havent bean counting games but im guessing 4 losses in pvp out of 50ish games and 3 in lv3\elders out of 50 but ill probly do some actual testing, and 6 pharohs is too many in my opinionSomething tells me that you'll need a bit more :time quanta.You might have some quanta troubles there.
Also, that Enchant Artifact seems out of place. I mean, you're packing it (I guess) so that your Eternity doesn't get PC'd, but chances are that it will end up clogging your hand when you could have drawed a Sundial or Time Pillar. Also, 30-card decks are faster at drawing, and that would let you take out the Novas.
Other than that, I'd like to see this deck with 6 Pharaohs, since you need to draw one earlier in the game.
BTW, how is this deck doing in your tests??
Post by: the_unknown on November 22, 2011, 01:04:02 am
Why enchant artifact? Otherwise the deck looks fine.enchant artifact is for the eternity, it got crushed and because of that i lost a game.
Post by: Ekki on November 22, 2011, 01:26:38 am
Huh, OK, remember that PvP is full of 50-card-newish players, so it's just useful if you take in account against what deck you're winning (this requires some knowledge about decktypes and synergies to actually work), so I recommend AI3 and Arena for tests. As I said:Well, look's basically OK to me. Some concerns though:i havent bean counting games but im guessing 4 losses in pvp out of 50ish games and 3 in lv3\elders out of 50 but ill probly do some actual testing, and 6 pharohs is too many in my opinionSomething tells me that you'll need a bit more :time quanta.You might have some quanta troubles there.
Also, that Enchant Artifact seems out of place. I mean, you're packing it (I guess) so that your Eternity doesn't get PC'd, but chances are that it will end up clogging your hand when you could have drawed a Sundial or Time Pillar. Also, 30-card decks are faster at drawing, and that would let you take out the Novas.
Other than that, I'd like to see this deck with 6 Pharaohs, since you need to draw one earlier in the game.
BTW, how is this deck doing in your tests??
EDIT: Seeing the video. You faced a 70-score guy in PvP, with Quantum pillars in his seemingly basic deck. Maybe you should try it in Arena (bronze is OK) or AI3/4, I see potential in the Pharaoh/SoR combo.
That is a bad reasoning. Supposing that you will draw one single EA in your deck, right when you need it, and after you drew 2 novas, is not as useful as it seems. There will always be a counter to your deck (like an earlier Lobotomizer or Mind Flayers), and many soft counters like PC and CC, so you can't pack everything because you're making your Pharaohs less effective. I say focus on Scarab spamming and maybe in stalling early game (but sundials seem to do that OK).Why enchant artifact? Otherwise the deck looks fine.enchant artifact is for the eternity, it got crushed and because of that i lost a game.
I've seen a deck like this (even before the new SoR) farming Half-Bloods, so I guess this one will have even more potential.
Post by: I8SumOrangesNItWasK on November 22, 2011, 01:29:07 am
Post by: Ekki on November 22, 2011, 01:40:27 am
What other stalls could you add? LOL, is the name "Procrastination" not enough of a hint as to what it does?IDK if you refer to me but I'll suppose that ;D
I think Sundials are OK to stall until the Scarabs are big enough, I just added that -maybe- a bit more stall could be of use, like Reverse Time or Gravity Pull, but those may make the deck too fat.
As I said:
*snip* maybe in stalling early game (but sundials seem to do that OK).
Post by: the_unknown on November 22, 2011, 02:37:40 am
[/quote]i know it is slightly bad reasoning but ya know its what i prefer when you use it (if you use you can change it to your desire) but i figure having the weapon with an EA is helpful because i also partially use it as some sort of cc and if it gets destroyed then i would lose it (the fact i have this for pc is because what if my opponenet pulls out a super strong light dragon with tons of health how am i gonna eat it? i kow it still seems kinda pointless but i find it helpful)
Post by: furballdn on November 22, 2011, 03:15:02 am
You don't really need the EA if you have two eternities. I would've understood the EA if you only had 1 eternity, but you have two...And you still need way more :time generation because you'll really be drained dry of :time.
Post by: I8SumOrangesNItWasK on November 22, 2011, 03:21:47 am
hey its nubzftw1 and my message to you is scarab spam is fun as heck! anyways the main reason for me posting the deck is because it has been fixed up a little so here is the deck;Ok, your new deck has too much :gravity. The pendulums are unnecessary. If the mark isn't enough, you have SoR's (I asusme that's the shards, although they're not showing up).
so thats the deck and here is a video review of the deck as promised in the original thread:
all creative and uncreative suggestions are welcomed as if your family has just got a new puppy, idk, anyways cya soon and remember; scarab spamming is great!
I suggest dropping all pendulums for 2 Novas and another Time Factory. 30 cards is better; if you have more than that because you're afraid of decking out, well, Sundials don't help any BUT that's what Eternity + EA is for. Speaking of EA and Sundials, you want to make sure you have plenty of quanta for them in case something were to happen, like SoR taking :light or :earth when you don't want it to. That's what the 2 Novas are for.