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Re: Poison Dials SoSac [FG][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37412.msg1177200#msg1177200
« Reply #168 on: January 26, 2015, 06:18:33 pm »
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I'm using this deck for Gold Arena farming. Quite good, though I swapped 2 SoSacs to 2 Luciferins. I don't have six, and nice for saving me if accidently my life drops below 40. By the way, everyone seems to forget that it's much faster to farm the Gold Arena than the FG-s.
Replace them with holy light, gives more consistancy as holy light costs 1 light and lucifrin costs 2 :rainbow, also overall the costs is cheaper and you're not using luci for the creatures. Upped holy light, holy flash, is free.
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Re: Poison Dials SoSac [FG][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37412.msg1177205#msg1177205
« Reply #169 on: January 26, 2015, 06:43:00 pm »
I upgraded it as you said. I forgave the list of cards that can be played in any deck - I was playing with mono Aether for too long. Oh, and thank you very much for the deck idea.  :) About the Gold: I find it more amusing this way then - and I miss two SoSas still.
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Re: Poison Dials SoSac [FG][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37412.msg1196711#msg1196711
« Reply #170 on: July 13, 2015, 10:21:04 pm »
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I am using this slight variation and it has a little more chances of victory in Platinum.

It's still very weak against Pestal or Quanta denial.
It automatically loses against any deck with healing, especially with Purify, however; practically any deck with Darkness (Vampires), Life, Light or Water are off limit for this deck. The win rate is not exalting, but with some luck it grants you a few special spins every hour.

It often grants you EM, that in Platinum is very rewarding, economically.

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Re: Poison Dials SoSac [FG][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37412.msg1202787#msg1202787
« Reply #171 on: August 30, 2015, 02:02:18 pm »
I think you'll be happy to know that I beat Miracle with this today :)
Chaining sosacs to prevent carddraw and getting lucky (only 1 miracle happened)
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Re: Poison Dials SoSac [FG][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37412.msg1202803#msg1202803
« Reply #172 on: August 30, 2015, 04:18:36 pm »
I think you'll be happy to know that I beat Miracle with this today :)
Chaining sosacs to prevent carddraw and getting lucky (only 1 miracle happened)

You can't prevent card-draw (except for nightmare) so I assume you talked about discarding
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Re: Poison Dials SoSac [FG][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37412.msg1202875#msg1202875
« Reply #173 on: August 31, 2015, 01:27:17 am »
I think you'll be happy to know that I beat Miracle with this today :)
Chaining sosacs to prevent carddraw and getting lucky (only 1 miracle happened)

You can't prevent card-draw so I assume you talked about discarding

I think I know what he's talking about, and it's a legit tactic that I've also used against FGs with Miracle.

There are many cards an AI won't play while you have the Sacrifice status, so by chaining them at the right time you can keep its hand full — slowing its card draw because it only has space for 1 per turn.
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Re: Poison Dials SoSac [FG][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37412.msg1202904#msg1202904
« Reply #174 on: August 31, 2015, 04:45:38 am »
I think you'll be happy to know that I beat Miracle with this today :)
Chaining sosacs to prevent carddraw and getting lucky (only 1 miracle happened)

You can't prevent card-draw so I assume you talked about discarding

I think I know what he's talking about, and it's a legit tactic that I've also used against FGs with Miracle.

There are many cards an AI won't play while you have the Sacrifice status, so by chaining them at the right time you can keep its hand full — slowing its card draw because it only has space for 1 per turn.

That's basically what I said when I wrote 'I assume you talked about discarding'

And I obviously know what you're talking about but that's not preventing card-draw, its slowing it
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Re: Poison Dials SoSac [FG][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37412.msg1202958#msg1202958
« Reply #175 on: August 31, 2015, 12:02:13 pm »
He was not talking about discarding. He was talking about making the AI draw 1 card instead of 2, how is this not preventing card draw?

@Barragor, you meant "reduce carddraw" basically, right?
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Re: Poison Dials SoSac [FG][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37412.msg1202961#msg1202961
« Reply #176 on: August 31, 2015, 12:15:39 pm »
He was not talking about discarding. He was talking about making the AI draw 1 card instead of 2, how is this not preventing card draw?

@Barragor, you meant "reduce carddraw" basically, right?

The major advantage isn't Miracle not drawing miracles, he will eventually draw it. The advantage SoSac gives is that Ai discards high cost cards, so he can't prevent card draw without nightmare, FG will still draw 1 card and that's more 'minor' So yeah this isn't fully preventing card draw, its slowing it.

He won because he used SoSac and Miracle discarded Miracles because of their high cost. That is the main thing that makes you win against FGs with Miracles, of course slowing down the draw can help but PDial isn't so fast and Miracle will eventually draw Miracles.

So Miracle MAY or MAY NOT had Miracle in hand, but if it was, he SURE discarded it. So discard advantage > slowing down the draw
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Re: Poison Dials SoSac [FG][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37412.msg1202963#msg1202963
« Reply #177 on: August 31, 2015, 12:19:27 pm »
Ai discards high cost cards

I did not know that. I'm sorry I doubted you.
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Re: Poison Dials SoSac [FG][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37412.msg1202965#msg1202965
« Reply #178 on: August 31, 2015, 12:27:19 pm »
Ai discards high cost cards

I did not know that. I'm sorry I doubted you.

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Re: Poison Dials SoSac [FG][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37412.msg1203222#msg1203222
« Reply #179 on: September 02, 2015, 05:09:36 am »
This deck is amaaaaaazing. Wow. I heeded the advice of UndeadSpider to build this and, my gosh, I will listen to every single piece of advice he gives me from now on.

I've had Limitless Speed for 3 days and farmed the money for this deck and upping the rest of LS. I've had this deck for ONE day and I've farmed enough electrum to make THREE upped Limitless Speeds.

This isn't a stall deck, it's insanely fast. Petition to be named Extreme Speed (heh)

But seriously, it's great.
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