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Re: Poison Dials SoSac [FG][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37412.msg1002390#msg1002390
« Reply #72 on: September 24, 2012, 04:44:52 pm »
The ai purifying itself is the major problem, as you'll never rebuild enough poison damage, so mirror shield doesn't really help this deck at all, except maybe against fire lance or gas bombs.
Scorpio is the only FG with purify and he will generally purify himself anyways. Seems like an excellent idea to me ;o. Would make octane much easier and prevent unexpected KOs from eternal phoenix etc. Only downside is that making the deck larger may prevent sundial/sosac chains and I don't see anything you can take out to replace it with.
He does not purify himself.
I met him many times and he always chose to purify me.

He will if you're not using SoSac and he has enough counters.
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Re: Poison Dials SoSac [FG][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37412.msg1002438#msg1002438
« Reply #73 on: September 24, 2012, 07:41:43 pm »
I haven't done many FGs with this deck, my comment about ai and purify referred exclusively to the arena, where the ai will cast purify on itself as soon as it has 10 poison counters, unless it also has sosac.

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Re: Poison Dials SoSac [FG][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37412.msg1002646#msg1002646
« Reply #74 on: September 25, 2012, 04:00:06 pm »
The ai purifying itself is the major problem, as you'll never rebuild enough poison damage, so mirror shield doesn't really help this deck at all, except maybe against fire lance or gas bombs.
Scorpio is the only FG with purify and he will generally purify himself anyways. Seems like an excellent idea to me ;o. Would make octane much easier and prevent unexpected KOs from eternal phoenix etc. Only downside is that making the deck larger may prevent sundial/sosac chains and I don't see anything you can take out to replace it with.
He does not purify himself.
I met him many times and he always chose to purify me.

Either way 99% of the time if he purifies you, you will be below 40 hp the next turn so you can't resosac anyways. You stand more chance trying to restack the poison.

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Re: Poison Dials SoSac [FG][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37412.msg1002737#msg1002737
« Reply #75 on: September 25, 2012, 11:23:53 pm »
Restack the poison? Huh? There's only 6 in the deck, and 2 or 3 will be gone before the first purify, and there are certain to be more purifies coming. If you save your divinities and start the sosac chain well above 40hp, you might have a chance, but lose your poison stack on the opponent and you'll deck out for sure. This deck already has deckout issues against any kind of healing, lose half your damage and its over. Either way though, purify is auto-quit.

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Re: Poison Dials SoSac [FG][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37412.msg1002840#msg1002840
« Reply #76 on: September 26, 2012, 07:50:20 am »
Is Miracle really so hard as stated in the OP?
Because I won the last 6 times by making him discard Miracle.
Though that might also just have been luck...
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Re: Poison Dials SoSac [FG][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37412.msg1002968#msg1002968
« Reply #77 on: September 26, 2012, 08:36:47 pm »
Is Miracle really so hard as stated in the OP?
Because I won the last 6 times by making him discard Miracle.
Though that might also just have been luck...

I only played miracle 5 times. I actually lost the first 2 times because miracle didnt have enough damage. and the other 3 miracle was able to play 2 of the 6 miracles in its deck. It may have been a fluke since 5 games really isn't a huge sample. the only way to tell is to take more stats
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Re: Poison Dials SoSac [FG][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37412.msg1003013#msg1003013
« Reply #78 on: September 26, 2012, 11:31:26 pm »
Is Miracle really so hard as stated in the OP?
Because I won the last 6 times by making him discard Miracle.
Though that might also just have been luck...

I only played miracle 5 times. I actually lost the first 2 times because miracle didnt have enough damage. and the other 3 miracle was able to play 2 of the 6 miracles in its deck. It may have been a fluke since 5 games really isn't a huge sample. the only way to tell is to take more stats

Maybe I'll try him in the future. I generally just autoquit b/c I'm scared of his name.

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Re: Poison Dials SoSac [FG][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37412.msg1003129#msg1003129
« Reply #79 on: September 27, 2012, 09:01:45 am »
Got Scorpio predicted today (again - I guess (s)he likes me), so I thought I'd give it a try with PDials after reading the debate above. Well, surprise, surprise; (s)he drawed 2 Purifies throughout the game, and used both for getting rid of his own Poison counters. You could say that I was unlucky, as (s)he has exactly 2 copies in 108 cards. However, the game ended with 19 Poison counters on Scorpio, 4 cards left for me and an EM, with 2 cards spun.

This alone proves it again that this strategy is working a *lot* better with more than 30 cards. You just have to keep one Deadly Poison in your hand at all times, Arsenic can easily take care of the rest - if you have still the possibility to stall of course; and that's where the 30+ cards come in. Also, if you fear that (s)he Purifies you, that'd also mean (s)he will negate a great portion of its damage output, just try to keep your HP on a healthy level when you Sacrifice.

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Re: Poison Dials SoSac [FG][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37412.msg1003267#msg1003267
« Reply #80 on: September 27, 2012, 09:30:15 pm »
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Again, this only applies to the one FG with purify. In the arena, arsenic is only useful if your opponent has no pc, bone wall, dime shield or sosac. Also assuming that both your arsenics aren't in the bottom 3rd of your deck.

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Re: Poison Dials SoSac [FG][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37412.msg1003268#msg1003268
« Reply #81 on: September 27, 2012, 09:34:38 pm »
Yes, that post only applies for "the one FG with purify". I also never mentioned that I had only two Arsenics.
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Re: Poison Dials SoSac [FG][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37412.msg1003277#msg1003277
« Reply #82 on: September 27, 2012, 10:28:24 pm »
You did mention having success with more than a 30 card deck, which would obviously include at least one more arsenic, but my attempts at taking more than 30 into the arena have met with incredibly bad RNG luck.

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Re: Poison Dials SoSac [FG][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37412.msg1003294#msg1003294
« Reply #83 on: September 27, 2012, 11:57:38 pm »
He will if you're not using SoSac and he has enough counters.
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